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Northern Northstar 9000/ TC 3200

Posted By: NewMech

Northern Northstar 9000/ TC 3200 - 04/11/14 02:24 AM

I have a simplex Northern car, not sure if it is a Northstar 9000 or TC 3200; no name plate on the controller. I have an installation guide that has both names.
The car is driving through the brake. It has a Thyssen geared machine, two brake coils in series; they ohm out fine and wiring back to the controller is good. Neither of my brake relays are picking, power to pick the relays comes from a side contact of the main contactor and that ohms out fine. When I checked power from the side contactor to the brake board, I only had 7 vac, I should have 120 vac. WIth the connector unplugged, I get 120 vac.
I figured that something was screwy on the brake board, so I ordered another. Installed the new board today, car still drives through the brake. I found a battery behind the relay board for the sheave jammer, it is split open and dead. I will replace the battery in the morning but after that I am at a loss.
I have no open fuses and I have checked all relay contacts that are in the brake circuit. Any ideas?
Posted By: uppo72

Re: Northern Northstar 9000/ TC 3200 - 04/11/14 08:55 AM

What is a sheave jammer? Is the battery connected to the board? Something is definitely drawing down the volts.
Posted By: john jay

Re: Northern Northstar 9000/ TC 3200 - 04/11/14 02:56 PM

when you say driving through the Brake, you are indicating you have field current and armature voltage. do you in fact have voltage to the motor brush rigging?
Posted By: NewMech

Re: Northern Northstar 9000/ TC 3200 - 04/11/14 09:23 PM

Originally Posted By: uppo72
What is a sheave jammer? Is the battery connected to the board? Something is definitely drawing down the volts.


Ascending overspeed brake, like a rope gripper
Posted By: NewMech

Re: Northern Northstar 9000/ TC 3200 - 04/11/14 09:26 PM

Originally Posted By: john jay
when you say driving through the Brake, you are indicating you have field current and armature voltage. do you in fact have voltage to the motor brush rigging?


I mean that the car runs at contract speed with the brake dropped. I finally got a hold of Northern; they said I need a power supply board. Voltage is present, not enough current to pick brake relays.
Posted By: galaxy

Re: Northern Northstar 9000/ TC 3200 - 04/12/14 01:13 AM

Northern is correct about their controller. Its the HVS 9603 I/O Supply board. I've seen that happen many times with a Northern
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