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Westinghouse ATM MPG re-leveling

Posted By: pez

Westinghouse ATM MPG re-leveling - 03/16/17 04:13 AM

I've got a Westinghouse ATM MPG or MG 10A 11 stop unit that overshoots the floor in the up direction by about 3" and re-levels consistently at all floors. Down direction just misses floor level now and than by about 1/2". Anyone know what might be goin on?
Posted By: jkh

Re: Westinghouse ATM MPG re-leveling - 03/16/17 11:21 AM

Pez
I'm not familiar with the ATM MPG. Is the car stepping down in speed as it approaches the floors?
Posted By: pez

Re: Westinghouse ATM MPG re-leveling - 03/16/17 01:23 PM

Yes. It's stepping down but just passes floor level a little to fast and re levels.
Posted By: Rolly

Re: Westinghouse ATM MPG re-leveling - 03/16/17 02:01 PM

Not familiar with ATM MPG designation either, does it have a regulator/Generator?
Posted By: pez

Re: Westinghouse ATM MPG re-leveling - 03/16/17 02:39 PM

Yes, it's a geared DC motor with generator. The motor tag is from 1985.
Posted By: pez

Re: Westinghouse ATM MPG re-leveling - 03/16/17 03:53 PM

I'm hearing this unit is an Epoch 1 but don't see it labeled anywhere
Posted By: Rolly

Re: Westinghouse ATM MPG re-leveling - 03/16/17 06:49 PM

If it is an Epoch you need a service tool...
Posted By: pez

Re: Westinghouse ATM MPG re-leveling - 03/16/17 10:26 PM


Thanks for responding. We do have the service tool. Ive tried FHU, floor height update seemed to take but no change. Do you know if there are parameters that change slowdown profile or maybe leveling speed? This seems like it will be a simple adjustment but I have no info.
Posted By: Indirtwetrust

Re: Westinghouse ATM MPG re-leveling - 03/16/17 11:16 PM

If this is an MG set without tach feedback I'd say it's under compounded but I've never seen one of these controllers either. Is inspect speed close up vs. down?
Posted By: E-man

Re: Westinghouse ATM MPG re-leveling - 03/16/17 11:35 PM

May wanna look at the DDD board on the governor.
Posted By: pez

Re: Westinghouse ATM MPG re-leveling - 03/16/17 11:59 PM

Indirt, haven't checked inspection speed, or contract speed for that matter. We'll check tomorrow.
E-man, I do have extra gov. boards. We'll check that too.
Thanks!
Posted By: E-man

Re: Westinghouse ATM MPG re-leveling - 03/17/17 01:20 AM

I also seem to recall some negative feedback diodes that would burn up. Westinghouse Schindler had an upgrade to mount some higher current outboard diodes and do away with the small ones.
Posted By: Rolly

Re: Westinghouse ATM MPG re-leveling - 03/17/17 01:26 AM

If I remember correctly there is an adjustment called "acceleration feedback". Been a long time since seeing one but this should control profile. It is a pot on one of the boards.
Posted By: Jcjmowrey

Re: Westinghouse ATM MPG re-leveling - 03/17/17 01:52 AM

Does this epoch use optical sensors and reflective tape for leveling? I had some epochs with leveling issues, I replaced the reflective tape and the issues went away.
Posted By: jkh

Re: Westinghouse ATM MPG re-leveling - 03/17/17 03:28 AM

Pez
Here is what I have in my notes for epoch.
Check POS16 and make sure the car position is hitting the target.
Compare POS16 to AVP16 count. Should be within 4
Check your PE2 boards, you may have a dead zone.
If your confident they are 100%, try adjusting the acceleration feed back board potentiometer MGI R9 ( no more then 2 turns ).
Check your negative feedback
Try changing out MGI or MGA.
Posted By: pez

Re: Westinghouse ATM MPG re-leveling - 03/17/17 05:33 AM

Thanks guys! I'll check your suggestions in the next few days.
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