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Posted By: Montana

Hydraulic MRL - 04/22/20 12:43 PM

Can anyone lead me to an independant non-proprietary elevator manufacturer who can supply me with an elevator that would meet this SPEC?

Elevator 1: Machine room-less hydraulic elevator. The entire hydraulic system and the controller shall be located inside the hoistway. No extra machine room or control space
1. Model: 3 stage
2. Rated Capacity: 2500 lbs.
3. Rated Speed: 150 ft. /min.
4. Travel: 30'-0''
5. Landings: 3 total
6. Openings: Front, 3
7. Clear Car Inside: 6’-8” x 4’-3”
8. Cab Height: 8’ standard
9. Hoistway Entrance Size: 3'-6'' wide x 7'-0'' high
10. Door Type: Single Speed, Center Opening
11. Power Characteristics: 208 volts, 3 Phase, 60 Hz.
12. Pit Depth: 4-0”
13. Hoistway Dimensions: As shown on drawings, Contractor to verify with manufacturer.

Elevator 2: Machine room-less hydraulic elevator. The entire hydraulic system and the controller shall be located inside the hoistway. No extra machine room or control space is required.
1. Model: 3 stage
2. Rated Capacity: 4000 lbs.
3. Rated Speed: 150 ft. /min.
4. Travel: 30'-0''
5. Landings: 3 total
6. Openings: Left Front, 3
7. Clear Car Inside: 7’-8” x 5’-5”
8. Cab Height: 8’ standard
9. Hoistway Entrance Size: 4’-0” wide x 7'-0'' high
10. Door Type: Single Speed, Center Opening
11. Power Characteristics: 208 volts, 3 Phase, 60 Hz.
12. Pit Depth: 4-0”
13. Hoistway Dimensions: As shown on drawings, Contractor to verify with manufacturer.

Controller: Shall be integrated in a hoistway entrance jamb. The elevator control system shall be microprocessor based and software oriented, together with all relays, switches, solid-state components and hardware required for operation.
Posted By: BillS

Re: Hydraulic MRL - 04/22/20 02:10 PM

iTry Delaware elevator manufacturing, i think they make an MRL Hydro.
Posted By: JustWolf

Re: Hydraulic MRL - 04/22/20 02:44 PM

I don't think you are going to get a good answer here. That is because elevator people don't like MRL's. If I can't touch it or see it, I, myself don't want it...
Posted By: Montana

Re: Hydraulic MRL - 04/22/20 03:01 PM

Haha, I'm totally with you on that JustWolf. I do not like working on MRL's. I try to convince architects not to SPEC them but it falls on deaf ears. I have to bid to the SPEC and this is the SPEC. Looking like TKE or The Big O will be their only choice. SMH.
Posted By: Montana

Re: Hydraulic MRL - 04/22/20 04:21 PM

Thanks BillS. I sent a message to Delaware Elevator and haven't heard back yet. It's starting to look like TKE's Endura 3-stage is the only option for a 30' rise.
Posted By: BillS

Re: Hydraulic MRL - 04/23/20 03:41 AM

pm me, i have some connections down there that might get a faster response.
Posted By: ABE

Re: Hydraulic MRL - 04/23/20 04:26 PM

I have heard Alliance elevator and Canton have a Hydro MRL but have not seen one yet.
Posted By: ElevatorGuy128

Re: Hydraulic MRL - 04/23/20 04:33 PM

Heard Canton is doing one as well but haven't seen anything on it and theyve been talking for a while now about it....We did an Alliance MRL package but it was traction (wouldn't recommend it - bunch of issues regardless of traction or hydro). Typically if a contractor really pushes us for a bid on a project that has MRL specs we usually push back hard on it and offer a typical package (holeless, in ground, or roped hydro) and if they really don't want it then we ignore the bid request, just not worth it with the big boys having the upper hand as far as MRL installs go.
Posted By: Montana

Re: Hydraulic MRL - 04/24/20 02:14 AM

Thanks Abe.
Posted By: Montana

Re: Hydraulic MRL - 04/24/20 02:17 AM

Thanks ElevatorGuy128. I just loath seeing proprietary elevators being put in. Haha
Posted By: Chainring

Re: Hydraulic MRL - 04/27/20 12:51 AM

If you are a building owner, you should avoid an MRL like the plague. If you are sourcing on behalf of a building owner, you should avoid an MRL like the plague.
Posted By: Montana

Re: Hydraulic MRL - 04/28/20 04:06 AM

Agree!
Posted By: Jblack83

Re: Hydraulic MRL - 04/29/20 10:14 PM

Screw MRL's! God they are terrible.
Posted By: Montana

Re: Hydraulic MRL - 04/30/20 02:48 AM

That's a big thumbs up from me Bjack83!
Posted By: Montana

Re: Hydraulic MRL - 05/01/20 06:13 AM

Oops sorry, my dyslexia kicked in Jblack83.
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