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Posted By: Jluff

Kone LCE - 04/06/22 10:55 AM

Working on a Kone LCE with KDL16s drive module
I’m getting a 0126 after reset . Car starts to move and faults out immediately. I have seen that code refer to door lock on one fault list I have. And a brake fault on another. Does anyone know what this fault definitely is referring to and what to look for ?
Posted By: Jluff

Re: Kone LCE - 04/06/22 12:59 PM

Update on this. As soon as I put car on inspection I get a 0021 Saftey chain fault. But the Eaton 5p 850 battery unit is beeping low battery. This is most likely the problem I would think
Posted By: Jluff

Re: Kone LCE - 04/06/22 05:07 PM

It’s not the ups. Changed 6-12 to 0. Won’t move on inspection or auto. Everything says ready then as soon as car gets drive up or down it faults F-1. 0026. Then eventually. 0106
Posted By: Jluff

Re: Kone LCE - 04/06/22 05:31 PM

3075 sub code. I do not have this sub code on 0126.
Posted By: john jay

Re: Kone LCE - 04/06/22 05:40 PM

Have you checked the thermistor in the motor? I think it is run in the same cable as the machine stop switch. It will throw the same fault.
Posted By: Jluff

Re: Kone LCE - 04/06/22 06:24 PM

I did not get to the top of shaft yet. The car is down low. Inspection faults out also so I can’t move the car. Safety led stays lit during fault .. it accepts a call and gets an drive up led lit. Then faults out. 0126 sub code 2. 0. 3075 .... I Will be back tomorrow
Posted By: Jluff

Re: Kone LCE - 04/06/22 06:59 PM

After the 0126. A 0106 will pop up. Inverter not ok. Braking resistor damaged Check tachometer and thermal switch connections

My brake relays look good
Posted By: Indirtwetrust

Re: Kone LCE - 04/06/22 10:59 PM

The sub code 3075 is Brake control board (BCX) hardware specific failure feedback. The 2 is a BCX fault code saying relay/relays are stuck
Posted By: Indirtwetrust

Re: Kone LCE - 04/06/22 11:09 PM

The BCX board is internal to the drive and I don’t know if you can get it separately but there are 2 little pilot relays on it. I suspect it monitors the back contact on them and when the contact fails it assumes the relay is stuck. But that’s just a guess.
Posted By: Jluff

Re: Kone LCE - 04/06/22 11:28 PM

Thanks dirt. So The entire drive needs to be replaced ?
Posted By: Jluff

Re: Kone LCE - 04/06/22 11:57 PM

I will take out the drive tomorrow. Hopefully it can be repaired. I can imagine the price is very high to get new from Kone
Posted By: Jluff

Re: Kone LCE - 04/07/22 12:55 AM

I should probably replace the brake control module also
Posted By: BillS

Re: Kone LCE - 04/07/22 03:35 AM

Hi Jluff, if needed I can have that drive rebuilt for you.

I sent you an email
Posted By: Dmhughes

Re: Kone LCE - 04/07/22 12:45 PM

0126 (3075) is your Brake control Board, more than likely the Relays, they can be changed separately, I’ve done quite a few, it’s a pain to do on the 16s tho, good luck 👍
Posted By: Jluff

Re: Kone LCE - 04/07/22 01:15 PM

The brake control board is internal in the drive ? Or it’s part of the brake control module on side of controller. Silver box ?
Posted By: heisenberg

Re: Kone LCE - 04/07/22 02:05 PM

The brake control module is seperate from the drive,

https://www.zjelevatortravelingcable.com/sale-kone-elevator-spare-parts-56362988.html

Most likely bad relays. Probably cheaper just to get an entirely new brake control module.
Posted By: Jluff

Re: Kone LCE - 04/07/22 02:18 PM

Oh. I thought the bcx (brake control board ) was part of the KDL 16s drive. Where is this module located. In the silver brake module unit on side of controller?
Posted By: Dmhughes

Re: Kone LCE - 04/07/22 03:09 PM

That’s a brake control relay from a V3F16es
The KDL16s brake board is inside the drive
Posted By: Jluff

Re: Kone LCE - 04/18/22 01:36 PM

The brake board was bad inside of drive... Repair shop fixed it and car is working. I did have to replace my car top 12v battery though. Next time have to disconnect it when power is off ..
Posted By: Montana

Re: Kone LCE - 04/18/22 08:15 PM

What repair shop did you send it to?
Posted By: Jluff

Re: Kone LCE - 04/18/22 09:50 PM

Miltronics
Posted By: Dmhughes

Re: Kone LCE - 04/19/22 09:09 AM

Glad you got it sorted,
Thanks for the update Jo 👍
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