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Posted By: Jluff
Kone LCE - 04/06/22 10:55 AM
Working on a Kone LCE with KDL16s drive module
I’m getting a 0126 after reset . Car starts to move and faults out immediately. I have seen that code refer to door lock on one fault list I have. And a brake fault on another. Does anyone know what this fault definitely is referring to and what to look for ?
Posted By: Jluff
Re: Kone LCE - 04/06/22 12:59 PM
Update on this. As soon as I put car on inspection I get a 0021 Saftey chain fault. But the Eaton 5p 850 battery unit is beeping low battery. This is most likely the problem I would think
Posted By: Jluff
Re: Kone LCE - 04/06/22 05:07 PM
It’s not the ups. Changed 6-12 to 0. Won’t move on inspection or auto. Everything says ready then as soon as car gets drive up or down it faults F-1. 0026. Then eventually. 0106
Posted By: Jluff
Re: Kone LCE - 04/06/22 05:31 PM
3075 sub code. I do not have this sub code on 0126.
Posted By: john jay
Re: Kone LCE - 04/06/22 05:40 PM
Have you checked the thermistor in the motor? I think it is run in the same cable as the machine stop switch. It will throw the same fault.
Posted By: Jluff
Re: Kone LCE - 04/06/22 06:24 PM
I did not get to the top of shaft yet. The car is down low. Inspection faults out also so I can’t move the car. Safety led stays lit during fault .. it accepts a call and gets an drive up led lit. Then faults out. 0126 sub code 2. 0. 3075 .... I Will be back tomorrow
Posted By: Jluff
Re: Kone LCE - 04/06/22 06:59 PM
After the 0126. A 0106 will pop up. Inverter not ok. Braking resistor damaged Check tachometer and thermal switch connections
My brake relays look good
The sub code 3075 is Brake control board (BCX) hardware specific failure feedback. The 2 is a BCX fault code saying relay/relays are stuck
The BCX board is internal to the drive and I don’t know if you can get it separately but there are 2 little pilot relays on it. I suspect it monitors the back contact on them and when the contact fails it assumes the relay is stuck. But that’s just a guess.
Posted By: Jluff
Re: Kone LCE - 04/06/22 11:28 PM
Thanks dirt. So The entire drive needs to be replaced ?
Posted By: Jluff
Re: Kone LCE - 04/06/22 11:57 PM
I will take out the drive tomorrow. Hopefully it can be repaired. I can imagine the price is very high to get new from Kone
Posted By: Jluff
Re: Kone LCE - 04/07/22 12:55 AM
I should probably replace the brake control module also
Posted By: BillS
Re: Kone LCE - 04/07/22 03:35 AM
Hi Jluff, if needed I can have that drive rebuilt for you.
I sent you an email
Posted By: Dmhughes
Re: Kone LCE - 04/07/22 12:45 PM
0126 (3075) is your Brake control Board, more than likely the Relays, they can be changed separately, I’ve done quite a few, it’s a pain to do on the 16s tho, good luck 👍
Posted By: Jluff
Re: Kone LCE - 04/07/22 01:15 PM
The brake control board is internal in the drive ? Or it’s part of the brake control module on side of controller. Silver box ?
Posted By: heisenberg
Re: Kone LCE - 04/07/22 02:05 PM
The brake control module is seperate from the drive,
https://www.zjelevatortravelingcable.com/sale-kone-elevator-spare-parts-56362988.htmlMost likely bad relays. Probably cheaper just to get an entirely new brake control module.
Posted By: Jluff
Re: Kone LCE - 04/07/22 02:18 PM
Oh. I thought the bcx (brake control board ) was part of the KDL 16s drive. Where is this module located. In the silver brake module unit on side of controller?
Posted By: Dmhughes
Re: Kone LCE - 04/07/22 03:09 PM
That’s a brake control relay from a V3F16es
The KDL16s brake board is inside the drive
Posted By: Jluff
Re: Kone LCE - 04/18/22 01:36 PM
The brake board was bad inside of drive... Repair shop fixed it and car is working. I did have to replace my car top 12v battery though. Next time have to disconnect it when power is off ..
Posted By: Montana
Re: Kone LCE - 04/18/22 08:15 PM
What repair shop did you send it to?
Posted By: Jluff
Re: Kone LCE - 04/18/22 09:50 PM
Miltronics
Posted By: Dmhughes
Re: Kone LCE - 04/19/22 09:09 AM
Glad you got it sorted,
Thanks for the update Jo 👍