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#6040 - 03/01/13 01:46 AM Oldest Unit on your route  
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What is the oldest unit on your route?

I have a Dover Rotary hydro that is from the 1950s. Besides the Mac operator and some fire service upgrades its pretty much original. One of my garages has Westinghouse ERL. The oldest thing I ever took care of is the hydro.

#6044 - 03/01/13 03:25 AM Re: Oldest Unit on your route [Re: sbrmilitia]  
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Otis SOB micro/drive...vintage 1938

#6057 - 03/01/13 03:53 PM Re: Oldest Unit on your route [Re: Len]  
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When I had a route the oldest was an American Elevator-no car gate-wood rails-sash counterweight-dirt pit floor. The install was early 1920's. I have come across a Moline Elevator chain drive unit-early 1910's in donwtown Dallas.

#6065 - 03/01/13 10:53 PM Re: Oldest Unit on your route [Re: E311]  
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PAYNE basement drum 5stops sliding gate with swing doors installed early 30's

#6068 - 03/02/13 01:55 AM Re: Oldest Unit on your route [Re: PGL]  
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1925 otis sob all original except i have overlaid a few newer relays.

#6076 - 03/02/13 01:31 PM Re: Oldest Unit on your route [Re: GreenPants]  
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Otis single speed AC, basement machine, installed by my grandfather in 1958... not the oldest around, but has a little sentimental value...

#6078 - 03/02/13 06:28 PM Re: Oldest Unit on your route [Re: EDMAn]  
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la mirada, CA
I have a 3stop freight, constant pressure, no car gates, water hydro, runs off of 9 relays total. No data plate, or manufacturer, GE 10,000 ohm coils. It's old?

#6080 - 03/03/13 12:23 AM Re: Oldest Unit on your route [Re: Take the stairs]  
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1929 Otis traction, 7 stop, manual scissor gate and manual sliding doors. Did have to put on a retiring cam for the hall doors as the original closers weren't reliably locking closed. all original otherwise, no overlays, has a car switch and some one running it 10hrs a day Monday threw Friday with pretty good traffic! the direction arrows in the hall on all floors are still driven off the cotton cords.

#6084 - 03/03/13 03:54 PM Re: Oldest Unit on your route [Re: gs264]  
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have any of you ever seen a manually operated freight elevator? By manually operated I mean one that you actually have to pull a rope to make it move. YOu have to constantly pull the rope to get the car to move. It actually has two speed with a centrifigul gear to change speeds. It also has wooden rails and all of that sort of thing. We had to look at it maybe fifteen years ago or so. The guy actually asked us if we could mod it. LOL.Funny part was the mor weight the easier the rope was to pull. I think if I remember correctly that it was from the late 1800's to maybe 1902?
Pretty intersting elevator to say the least

#6085 - 03/03/13 07:18 PM Re: Oldest Unit on your route [Re: aquadag]  
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Tiller rope manual elevator. We had one under maintenance in the mid 1980's when I first got in. We stopped working on it after the building started to make weird noises-it ended up coming out of the overhead-no one was hurt thankfully

#6087 - 03/04/13 02:03 AM Re: Oldest Unit on your route [Re: E311]  
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Tampa city courthouse used to have one from 1924. anyone been there lately? Just wondering if they still had it.

#6093 - 03/06/13 01:10 AM Re: Oldest Unit on your route [Re: aquadag]  
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We have a job with duplex Llewellyn gearless installed in 1930, the controller was moded in the early 80's with an MM II. This is the only Llewellyn gearless I have seen, saw a lot of geared.

#6094 - 03/06/13 05:37 AM Re: Oldest Unit on your route [Re: Ibconelson]  
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Early 1900's Otis drum with wooden rails etc. I have some photos, perhaps someone might identify and help us pinpoint the age, or where they think the original motor was. I've heard stories of early otis Square/Pancake type motors but there isn't much room between the wall of the machine room and the shaft for a direct coupling, so perhaps it was always some type of belt drive configuration?
http://mcareavy.wordpress.com/elevators/

#6095 - 03/06/13 03:05 PM Re: Oldest Unit on your route [Re: rollaway-up]  
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great pics Rollaway-it looks as though it was a belt drive conversion.

#6120 - 03/08/13 06:58 PM Re: Oldest Unit on your route [Re: E311]  
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Ever seen a steam powered elevator??? The one I saw had been modded with new drive sheave so it had steel cables!!! When it was new it had hemp rope... Birdcage type with the old Otis broken rope safety. It had about 4 relays with water dripping off everything from the steam lines.

#6123 - 03/08/13 09:11 PM Re: Oldest Unit on your route [Re: danzeitz]  
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Any pictures of your unit? I posted a few pictures of my own in the gallery.


Make good choices,

JKH
#6167 - 03/11/13 11:23 AM Re: Oldest Unit on your route [Re: jkh]  
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No I wish I had. That unit was removed and went to the Transportation museum. This was about 20 years ago but It was believed the last steam powered elevator had been torn out 30 years before that. So who really knows what's still out there going up and down everyday.

#6181 - 03/12/13 04:30 AM Re: Oldest Unit on your route [Re: danzeitz]  
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I had a unit in Long Beach, (CA), that had only three numbers in it's State number. I think it was like 700 something.

Stopped on the brake, which was a huge liability, so I refused to work on it any longer.

For comparison, there are more than 160,000 units in CA these days.

Oldest stuff we have now is about 40 years old.

#7262 - 06/02/13 11:06 PM Re: Oldest Unit on your route [Re: Vic]  
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(5) stop (3) stage telescopic water hydro built in 1895 in Worcester mass.

If there is a major fire in the city, there isn't enough water pressure to make it to the top floor.

We call them flush toilets because they run up on city water pressure and dump water into the sewer system to run down.

The shipper rope was replaced with a floor seeking controller made in our shop. The platform is wood as well as the three cab walls. The gates have barn door tracks and expanded metal.

Have to grease the pistons once a month because we can't use asbestos impregnated grease that used to last at least five years.

#7481 - 06/25/13 07:07 AM Re: Oldest Unit on your route [Re: sbrmilitia]  
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1896 Llewellyn basement Drum machine.
Last patent date on Westinghouse motor is 1896.
chain driven selector, 4 stop unit.
Birdcage car installed inside a square, glass lined stairway. Bostwick collapsible gate. windowed Swing doors at landings
Still in original operating condition.



Vancouver Canada

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