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#7242 - 05/31/13 09:47 PM Tac50 fault 162
Joined: May 2013 Posts: 7 brianawd stranger
brianawd stranger Joined: May 2013 Posts: 7	Has any one had this fault before. My tech is working on some tac50 units that were intalled back in 2001 at intel in Oregon. He keeps getting this same fault. He has checked all related realys and I\O's and still can't figur out what the issues

#7258 - 06/02/13 05:53 PM Re: Tac50 fault 162 [Re: brianawd]
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sbrmilitia addict Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 451	Off the top of my head I cannot remember what a 162 is do you have a fault sheet that says what it is? Is the 162 fatal?

#7267 - 06/03/13 02:00 PM Re: Tac50 fault 162 [Re: sbrmilitia]
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brianawd stranger Joined: May 2013 Posts: 7	Originally Posted By: sbrmilitia Off the top of my head I cannot remember what a 162 is do you have a fault sheet that says what it is? Is the 162 fatal? From what the tach told me, The 162 fault is related to a GL, FG, or HWM I/O failure. Every time we get this fault we find the car parked on one of the floors with the doors open. Yet when the tech checks all the relayting relays and I/O's they all check out good.

#7269 - 06/03/13 03:51 PM Re: Tac50 fault 162 [Re: brianawd]
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charlie stranger Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 18	Tac 50 or a tac 50/04...

#7271 - 06/03/13 04:19 PM Re: Tac50 fault 162 [Re: charlie]
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brianawd stranger Joined: May 2013 Posts: 7	Tac 50 Last edited by brianawd; 06/03/13 04:19 PM.

#7273 - 06/03/13 11:27 PM Re: Tac50 fault 162 [Re: brianawd]
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Administrator Administrator Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 404 Orange County, California	The controller thinks the car doors are open when the hall doors are locked. Does this always happen at the same floor or different floors? Have you already changed the GL, HWM, FG Relay? What kind of door operator do you have? You could be losing the DOL signal intermittently. Or the hall door could be uncoupling from the clutch. I would look at all these different scenarios. Good Luck!

#7275 - 06/04/13 01:38 AM Re: Tac50 fault 162 [Re: Administrator]
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sbrmilitia addict Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 451	I would change the modules first. I've had these faults when the interlocks were made up but the doors would relax off the limit due to my tomahawk style restrictor getting into a bind and not letting the cab door fully close. You make any adjustments on the limits always rescan your doors(TK door operators.)

#7280 - 06/04/13 08:22 PM Re: Tac50 fault 162 [Re: Administrator]
Joined: May 2013 Posts: 7 brianawd stranger
brianawd stranger Joined: May 2013 Posts: 7	Originally Posted By: Administrator The controller thinks the car doors are open when the hall doors are locked. Does this always happen at the same floor or different floors? Have you already changed the GL, HWM, FG Relay? What kind of door operator do you have? You could be losing the DOL signal intermittently. Or the hall door could be uncoupling from the clutch. I would look at all these different scenarios. Good Luck! The tech has already replaced the GL,HWM and FG relay. The door operator is new otis unit. We did this upgrade to all 6 unit in the building at the same time. But this unit is the only one that is having this issue. I will pass this info to my tech. Thank for all the help.

#7281 - 06/04/13 08:57 PM Re: Tac50 fault 162 [Re: brianawd]
Joined: May 2013 Posts: 7 brianawd stranger
brianawd stranger Joined: May 2013 Posts: 7	Little more info. Door operators are Otis AT400 with Otis door locks. Door cluth has been replaced with bayanet.

#7284 - 06/04/13 11:28 PM Re: Tac50 fault 162 [Re: brianawd]
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Ibconelson Rag Man Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 30 West Tex	Did/does this unit have the secondary gate switch, a kind of TK dpm switch? Some TIV and TAC 50's had these.

#7285 - 06/05/13 01:15 AM Re: Tac50 fault 162 [Re: Ibconelson]
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sbrmilitia addict Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 451	Does it have the smart tech door mod board to control that Otis operator? Last edited by sbrmilitia; 06/05/13 01:16 AM.

#7286 - 06/05/13 02:08 PM Re: Tac50 fault 162 [Re: Ibconelson]
Joined: May 2013 Posts: 7 brianawd stranger
brianawd stranger Joined: May 2013 Posts: 7	Originally Posted By: Ibconelson Did/does this unit have the secondary gate switch, a kind of TK dpm switch? Some TIV and TAC 50's had these. Yes it does have a secondary gate switch. Its just a limit swith that otis put in.

#7287 - 06/05/13 02:09 PM Re: Tac50 fault 162 [Re: sbrmilitia]
Joined: May 2013 Posts: 7 brianawd stranger
brianawd stranger Joined: May 2013 Posts: 7	Originally Posted By: sbrmilitia Does it have the smart tech door mod board to control that Otis operator? No these units do not have the smart tech door mod board.

#7288 - 06/06/13 12:53 AM Re: Tac50 fault 162 [Re: brianawd]
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elmcannic addict Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 566 S. Central Utah	Doesn't the Thyssen equipment recognize a timing sequence with regards to Door lock, Gate lock then DCL? Quite possible that this window of time or sequence of closure is a hair off. Maybe a red hair too. Check it out.

#7289 - 06/06/13 12:56 AM Re: Tac50 fault 162 [Re: elmcannic]
Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 30 Ibconelson Rag Man
Ibconelson Rag Man Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 30 West Tex	I'd make shue the doors are not relaxing off the secondary gate switch. Good luck and ALWAYS WORK SAFE.

#7298 - 06/07/13 02:19 AM Re: Tac50 fault 162 [Re: Ibconelson]
Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 451 sbrmilitia addict
sbrmilitia addict Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 451	I looked into the 162 fault, its a I/o relay failure on the door circuit. I would put new modules and change out the HW relay.

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