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#8131 - 08/17/13 02:28 AM
DMC Issue
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Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 74
cmw007
service mechanic
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service mechanic
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 74
east coast
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Here goes. Customer made a call today. He was painting around the 2nd floor hall button. Wanted to remove the button faceplate from the wall. It was stuck from layers of paint, so he used his knife to pry from the wall. When he did the plate fell off the wall causing the wires to unplug from the button and hit the floor. He then thought O Sh**! Well he went to another elevator and pulled out the wall plate to see how it was wired. He got the wires hooked up, but the elevator would not run. No joke. Ok when I got onsite there were 4 blown fuses, I f2, f3, f4, etc. I have completely removed the button and still blow f2, f3. Removed wires to button in hoistway. Still blow f2,f3. Unplugged clc, still blow f2, f3. Wondering about the rectifier or the capacitor in that circuit. Any ideas??
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#8157 - 08/18/13 05:37 PM
Re: DMC Issue
[Re: Philly]
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Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 134
traction
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This is exactly what's wrong with our neiep education program guys. How is it possible this service tech is unaware of how a dmm works? ! The program is outdated and doesn't cover 25% if what it should imo. Where is the company training? We have some serious problems coming in the near future since half of our union workforce will be retiring in less than 10 yrs. It's hard to argue that we deserve raises and more bennies when our bros are lacking the knowledge to do their jobs. We all have to step up and teach the upcoming generation and re-vamp the neiep program to include more technical skills of troubleshooting electronics. Cmw007, Google it bud. How do you know what education the OP has? There's nothing wrong with NEIEP, they teach you how to use a dmm, wheter or not the individual remembers or understands how to use it is another question. It has been this way since the begining and will continue to be this way, union education or not. The question of ability applies to all workers, regardless of the employer, union or not, and even line of work. Not everyone is an adjuster, nor should they be expected to be, but there is a place for everyone to do thier job. I agree that we all need to do our part to teach and pass on our knowledge, but this trade takes a lifetime of learning, and you will never master it.
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#8162 - 08/18/13 11:15 PM
Re: DMC Issue
[Re: sccjr]
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Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 262
Philly
enthusiast
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enthusiast
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Posts: 262
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The old timers are just as bad. More than half of the t/s calls I get called out on the mechanics have over 20 yrs exp in the trade...When I fix something they don't care how I did it just that it works. You're right though NEIEP needs to make things a bit harder to pass the program, like a final hands on simulated t/s test plus written. But that might put our union in a position not to fill mechanic requests. Believe me, there are all sorts of unemployed people looking to cash in on a six figure salary. I doubt very highly that those requests would go unfilled. It just won't be filed by our brothers unless we help each other and strive to be better instead of sitting back and calling the adjuster.
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#8164 - 08/19/13 12:09 AM
Re: DMC Issue
[Re: Philly]
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Joined: Feb 2013
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john jay
old hand
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old hand
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 761
ohio
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this started out ok. a question was asked, then another question that showed a little lack of knowledge. some brothers are being used in construction, and heavy service work, and then being put in the maintenance callout rotation, whether voluntarily or by command. we really don't know. then it became a dialog about NEIEP, meters, lack of schooling, etc. and the man still doesn't have an answer. a question about blowing fuses can not really have a definitive answer, only advice, conjecture and supposition based on our experience. some advice was given, lets let this question rest in peace.
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