Who's Online Now
0 registered members (), 7 guests, and 0 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
April
S M T W T F S
1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30
Newest Members
Prairieelevator, Robot Rob, Montkone, Jevans, Clayshooter
8395 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums13
Topics6,495
Posts36,790
Members8,395
Most Online117
Jan 16th, 2020
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
#8450 - 09/12/13 06:41 PM New(er) low rise schindler (non hydraulic)  
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 29
bayblue Offline
newbie
bayblue  Offline
newbie

Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 29
Received a trouble call today on one of these newer schindler lifts. I have no idea what this unit is called but it's a machineroomless design and uses belts to lift the car. You need a special schindler key to access the controller. This particular lift is a two stop and it got me thinking if this is the future of low rise schindler lifts? I have zero experience working on them nor does anyone from my company, so I'm here to ask: has anyone from a different company made any progress on working on these units or are they so proprietary that it's not worth dealing with? Does schindler need to be there for the annual inspection to preform the necessary tests? This whole unit although neat, seems to be a step in the extreme proprietary direction. So what's the word gentlemen? What are your views on this particular piece of equipment if you've seen it?

#8451 - 09/12/13 10:25 PM Re: New(er) low rise schindler (non hydraulic) [Re: bayblue]  
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 12
mustang Offline
stranger
mustang  Offline
stranger

Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 12
Its probably a 3300 they are very proprietary somewhat hard to work on without Schindler training I have installed several of these units when I worked for them and they are so different than any other Schindler equipment did they leave any job books or prints there should be a small 5x7 book that tells you what the error codes mean without that your screwed there should also be a book that shows how to do all the test and some wago jumpers for testing the brake

#8452 - 09/12/13 11:37 PM Re: New(er) low rise schindler (non hydraulic) [Re: mustang]  
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 451
sbrmilitia Offline
addict
sbrmilitia  Offline
addict

Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 451
What kind of company do you work for? Some of your questions are interesting.

#8842 - 11/01/13 03:44 AM Re: New(er) low rise schindler (non hydraulic) [Re: sbrmilitia]  
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 19
Ken1 Offline
stranger
Ken1  Offline
stranger

Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 19
Its a 3300 they are illegal in cali

#8844 - 11/01/13 04:08 AM Re: New(er) low rise schindler (non hydraulic) [Re: Ken1]  
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 451
sbrmilitia Offline
addict
sbrmilitia  Offline
addict

Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 451
I sure hope you are not the tech answering the call. Good Lord I don't even like posting on this site due to this junk......I hope you are the building engineer not the tech doing the work. If you are the tech Yes you should call Schindler and have them onsite anytime you do anything to this unit

#8846 - 11/01/13 12:10 PM Re: New(er) low rise schindler (non hydraulic) [Re: sbrmilitia]  
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 119
sccjr Offline
Shootintrouble
sccjr  Offline
Shootintrouble

Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 119
Just ran into a new install job spec'd for this 3300 out here in TX. My vendor can't match the spec or anything similar, so Schindler is going to be the only elevator contractor bidding this job. Good luck to the GC on getting a fair price. I believe the total rise is 23' @ 150fpm. Interesting direction our trade is going.

#8856 - 11/02/13 06:11 AM Re: New(er) low rise schindler (non hydraulic) [Re: sccjr]  
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 72
Postal Offline
journeyman
Postal  Offline
journeyman

Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 72
He said wago

😝😝😝😝

#8898 - 11/06/13 09:25 PM Re: New(er) low rise schindler (non hydraulic) [Re: Postal]  
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 29
bayblue Offline
newbie
bayblue  Offline
newbie

Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 29
Sbrmilitia I am the tech, however once I showed up to the job I realized what it was. I wasn't planning on doing any work to it which was the reason for my post. The only thing I looked for on the job was a simple fix, safety string etc... I'll gladly leave it to Schindler haha!

#8900 - 11/06/13 09:51 PM Re: New(er) low rise schindler (non hydraulic) [Re: bayblue]  
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 451
sbrmilitia Offline
addict
sbrmilitia  Offline
addict

Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 451
Why did your company take this contract on maintenance if you can't work on it?

#8901 - 11/06/13 09:55 PM Re: New(er) low rise schindler (non hydraulic) [Re: sbrmilitia]  
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 451
sbrmilitia Offline
addict
sbrmilitia  Offline
addict

Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 451
Guess my other question would be why did this building install a propitiatory piece of equipment if they want to get a low ball maintenance contact with a company who either does not have this equipment reversed engineered or sticking with the manufacture who has tools and parts to keep it running?

#8902 - 11/06/13 09:59 PM Re: New(er) low rise schindler (non hydraulic) [Re: sbrmilitia]  
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 134
traction Offline
member
traction  Offline
member

Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 134
Who's to say the OEM offers the best maintenance?

#8903 - 11/06/13 09:59 PM Re: New(er) low rise schindler (non hydraulic) [Re: sbrmilitia]  
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 29
bayblue Offline
newbie
bayblue  Offline
newbie

Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 29
It was a mistake, the older elevator was demo'd and they had Schindler install this newer unit. We work on the majority of the elevators for this particular property management company so it was an oversight. They called to have an elevator fixed as usual, what they didn't realize is that it's still under warranty plus we won't work on it anyway.

#8904 - 11/07/13 01:10 AM Re: New(er) low rise schindler (non hydraulic) [Re: bayblue]  
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 451
sbrmilitia Offline
addict
sbrmilitia  Offline
addict

Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 451
You can be the greatest maintenance company on earth but If you do not have the tool or sign with a company who has reversed engineered a tool to troubleshoot, make adjustment etc. Then your great company isn't so great anymore. That's one clean elevator, machine room, pit, car tops looks great, but damn it never runs and when it goes down it takes them weeks to fix it.......my point


Photo Gallery
PECCO PH5000 Overspeed Governor
Drive sheave
The best helper.
Rotary Oildraulic
Old Otis badge.
Brakes,Coil,Rotor
KONE MX10 repair tool kit
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0
Page Time: 0.031s Queries: 15 (0.010s) Memory: 2.7425 MB (Peak: 2.9683 MB) Zlib disabled. Server Time: 2024-04-20 10:48:17 UTC