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#9023 - 11/19/13 04:16 AM
Re: Westinghouse Question
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If you do have the prints, Westinghouse I believe use one of their relays for parking. I'm not familiar with the smfa-rel how does that differ from ERL?
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#9147 - 12/06/13 01:40 AM
Re: Westinghouse Question
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M69 is an individual type ES relay. How do I move it? This is generally why you can spot mechanics from also rans(if this is what you mean). You never move 'switches/relays', as they dont need to move anywhere. Its the 'contacts' that make circuits so that's what you would move and I think what the poster meant. Spacial awareness is needed sometimes to be a lift mechanic as well as sometimes the ability to 'think outside the box'. So if this contact is what actually sends the feed to the call relay then I would think I would disconnect these wires from the relay, and then just leave them in circuit at the other end and just terminate them in a connector and leave them be(so if the levels change again this can be reversed. Also mark then so other's can know what they are and mark the print also). Then I would simply copy what the old circuit(to level 1) is, at the g level and replace those 2 wires to the M69 relay.
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#9151 - 12/07/13 07:33 AM
Re: Westinghouse Question
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Vatorman15 is not suggesting to move the M69 relay...
M69 relay provides a function. Micmerci should see this on his print. Hey mate after seeing the print you sent me, I see what he meant. However im still not sure why that is important as it appears to be a limit to indicate the lift is actually on the main floor ( and drop the relay to stop the lift homing)but it doesn't send the lift there though. Even if you have a home relay with this m69 contact in circuit, you are still in cct to the previous main level of 1 not the level of g which is required now. Wouldn't you have to change where to give the lift a car call( level 1 to level g)? If you understand what im trying to say.
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#9152 - 12/07/13 07:51 AM
Re: Westinghouse Question
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M69 is an individual type ES relay. How do I move it? This is generally why you can spot mechanics from also rans(if this is what you mean). You never move 'switches/relays', as they dont need to move anywhere. Its the 'contacts' that make circuits so that's what you would move and I think what the poster meant. Spacial awareness is needed sometimes to be a lift mechanic as well as sometimes the ability to 'think outside the box'. So if this contact is what actually sends the feed to the call relay then I would think I would disconnect these wires from the relay, and then just leave them in circuit at the other end and just terminate them in a connector and leave them be(so if the levels change again this can be reversed. Also mark then so other's can know what they are and mark the print also). Then I would simply copy what the old circuit(to level 1) is, at the g level and replace those 2 wires to the M69 relay. Disregard this post. I didn't quite recognise the cct it referring to. My apologies.
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#9159 - 12/08/13 01:09 AM
Re: Westinghouse Question
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I'm 99% sure that is correct. Interesting.... Does this system operate like the Otis selector/control in that it doesn't have floor relays and the lift doesn't actually know where it is but just instructed to start/ stop when and where its told? If so what your saying will work as all it needs is a stop input(hs/cs) on Otis). My reasoning previously was I thought this system had individual floor relays and car/landing call relays.
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#9162 - 12/09/13 02:18 AM
Re: Westinghouse Question
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If "g" happens to be the bottom landing now it will have a B69 relay. If extra unused contacts are available simply install a timer that puts a car call 301 in after timer sees it's been away from that floor at a preset time. You could actually prewire it to test if it's what your looking for? And then modify to suit job conditions. You may need to install contacts to disable feature i.e. (fire feature) Hey mate, just to confirm I think the poster said the client 'wants' to change the home feature from level 1 to g so when you say it has its B69(is it b or m?) meaning its already been modified or all levels will have this relay? Does this equipment have normal climbing or does it operate like an Otis system and is given a direction and stop inpulse only.
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#9175 - 12/11/13 03:22 AM
Re: Westinghouse Question
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