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#18605 - 11/10/16 03:19 AM Hydraulic Elevator History  
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I have some questions about pre-oil hydraulic (Oildraulic) elevators (note that I am not an elevator technician, I am an elevator enthusiast wanting to learn more about historic elevators).

1. Did Rotary invent the Oildraulic elevator in 1937? Or was it a different year?
2. Before Rotary invented the Oildraulic elevator, were there water hydraulic elevators that basically worked almost exactly the same as an Oildraulic elevator, but with water instead of oil? (I ask because I saw a freight elevator that had a nameplate that appeared to say 1931 as year installed, and it was a hydraulic elevator, and as far as I can tell it has always been hydraulic, there are no signs I can see that it used to be a traction elevator).
3. Before pump hydraulic elevators, did there use to be hydraulic elevators that simply worked on city water pressure to go up instead of a pump, and that dumped water into the sewer when going down (and could some of them not need electricity at all)?
4. I have heard of water hydraulic elevators that went 500 fpm or more. Are these elevators that run on only city water pressure?
5. Are there some water hydraulic elevators that are similar to what I describe in question no. 3, but do use a pump to go up, but don't have a holding tank for the water (the water goes into the sewer)? Because I recently got shown the machine room of a water hydraulic elevator, and it appeared that there was a pump, but I was told the elevator dumped water into the sewer (though the elevator is no longer in service). That elevator also had a device in the machine room that I don't know the purpose of (there was a cable going over it, was the elevator once operated by pulling a rope? I was told it was car switch operated before the elevator was taken out of service).

#18606 - 11/10/16 05:21 AM Re: Hydraulic Elevator History [Re: UADA]  
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A simple Google search of your topic shows quite a bit of information that might be of interest to you.

#18608 - 11/10/16 06:27 AM Re: Hydraulic Elevator History [Re: elmcannic]  
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Here is some info regarding water hydro's in Melbourne CBD. If you walk around in the CBD, there are still plaques depicting Melbourne Hydraulic Company, but never worked on any.

https://hamhistorian.wordpress.com/2012/...the-modern-age/

#18689 - 11/17/16 05:22 PM Re: Hydraulic Elevator History [Re: uppo72]  
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there were a lot of water elevators in new england some of them installed as early as the 1860's most of them were powered directly from the city water supply and yes they were controlled by shipper ropes. some of the hi speed ones did have pressure vessels filled with steam pumps and some did run up to 600fpm also there were roped water units with horizontal pistons and cylinders i even encountered a water hydro drum machine long ago when i was young sadly the last of these were shutdown several years ago in mass as now one could determine the condition of the cylinders (some of which had been in service over 150 years

#18704 - 11/18/16 09:42 PM Re: Hydraulic Elevator History [Re: wwoodard]  
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The Fitzwilly's building in Northampton has a water powered unit but it was modded to be continuous pressure push button instead of shipper rope. If anybody knows where else I can find some old elevators in Massachusetts I'd be greatly obliged.


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