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#25091 - 10/29/18 08:50 AM Schindler Varidor 10 upgrade with Fermator VVVF
Joined: Jun 2018 Posts: 13 Nikic stranger
Nikic stranger Joined: Jun 2018 Posts: 13	Hi guys, i need to upgrade varidor 10 car doors with Fermatoor vvvf car doors, SDIC is Q3. attaching the bords photo, on the link below https://ibb.co/fBS8bV Any help regarding wiring and collecting the signals for new car doors would be appreciated

#25102 - 10/30/18 03:04 AM Re: Schindler Varidor 10 upgrade with Fermator VVVF [Re: Nikic]
Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 263 heisenberg Engineer
heisenberg Engineer Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 263	Maybe ask fermator if they have any info. Surely they've got something

#25103 - 10/30/18 08:09 AM Re: Schindler Varidor 10 upgrade with Fermator VVVF [Re: Nikic]
Joined: Jun 2018 Posts: 13 Nikic stranger
Nikic stranger Joined: Jun 2018 Posts: 13	Thanks Heisenberg, i know everything about fermator, but i don't have documentation regarding SDIC.Q3 i mean where from to collect open and close door signals.

#25104 - 10/30/18 03:37 PM Re: Schindler Varidor 10 upgrade with Fermator VVVF [Re: Nikic]
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heisenberg Engineer Joined: Apr 2014 Posts: 263	Do you have electrical schematics?

#25112 - 10/31/18 08:45 AM Re: Schindler Varidor 10 upgrade with Fermator VVVF [Re: Nikic]
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Alex75 member Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 134 Sweden	From the picture it looks like a Schindler Smart MRL? In that case you dont have a DOD PCB where you can choose your type of door machine. So I think I would remove the 3 main power phases of the X400 plug on the SDIC PCB and use the relays ST-S and ST-O to generate my open and close signals to the Fermator door controller. Remember to connect the door open limit (KET-O XKET Pin 2-5) and door close limit (KET-S XKET Pin 3-4) signals to the plug XKET on the SDIC PCB. The Schindler controller is very sensitive about these signals. You can connect the door reopen signal from the door controller in the same plug (KSKB XKET Pin 1-6). Last edited by Alex75; 10/31/18 08:51 AM.

#25117 - 11/01/18 02:15 PM Re: Schindler Varidor 10 upgrade with Fermator VVVF [Re: heisenberg]
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Nikic stranger Joined: Jun 2018 Posts: 13	Originally Posted by heisenberg Do you have electrical schematics? No, i dont have the schematics

#25118 - 11/01/18 02:16 PM Re: Schindler Varidor 10 upgrade with Fermator VVVF [Re: Alex75]
Joined: Jun 2018 Posts: 13 Nikic stranger
Nikic stranger Joined: Jun 2018 Posts: 13	Originally Posted by Alex75 From the picture it looks like a Schindler Smart MRL? In that case you dont have a DOD PCB where you can choose your type of door machine. So I think I would remove the 3 main power phases of the X400 plug on the SDIC PCB and use the relays ST-S and ST-O to generate my open and close signals to the Fermator door controller. Remember to connect the door open limit (KET-O XKET Pin 2-5) and door close limit (KET-S XKET Pin 3-4) signals to the plug XKET on the SDIC PCB. The Schindler controller is very sensitive about these signals. You can connect the door reopen signal from the door controller in the same plug (KSKB XKET Pin 1-6). Yes Alex, it is Smart Mrl, and there is no DOD PCB. Thanks for helping me.

#25119 - 11/01/18 03:17 PM Re: Schindler Varidor 10 upgrade with Fermator VVVF [Re: Nikic]
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Alex75 member Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 134 Sweden	Originally Posted by Nikic Originally Posted by Alex75 From the picture it looks like a Schindler Smart MRL? In that case you dont have a DOD PCB where you can choose your type of door machine. So I think I would remove the 3 main power phases of the X400 plug on the SDIC PCB and use the relays ST-S and ST-O to generate my open and close signals to the Fermator door controller. Remember to connect the door open limit (KET-O XKET Pin 2-5) and door close limit (KET-S XKET Pin 3-4) signals to the plug XKET on the SDIC PCB. The Schindler controller is very sensitive about these signals. You can connect the door reopen signal from the door controller in the same plug (KSKB XKET Pin 1-6). Yes Alex, it is Smart Mrl, and there is no DOD PCB. Thanks for helping me. No worries, feel free to post again, if you have any futher questions. /Alex

#25174 - 11/12/18 08:00 AM Re: Schindler Varidor 10 upgrade with Fermator VVVF [Re: Nikic]
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Nikic stranger Joined: Jun 2018 Posts: 13	Well guys, Varidor 10 cabin door upgrade with Fermator VVVF5 accomplished successfully Big thanks to Alex75 who helped with great explanation. Attaching some photos. https://ibb.co/fDDMvA https://ibb.co/iV9daA https://ibb.co/nHOt8V Cheers !!!!! Last edited by Nikic; 11/12/18 08:03 AM.

#25187 - 11/15/18 03:29 PM Re: Schindler Varidor 10 upgrade with Fermator VVVF [Re: Nikic]
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koneisland journeyman Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 93	Originally Posted by Nikic Well guys, Varidor 10 cabin door upgrade with Fermator VVVF5 accomplished successfully Big thanks to Alex75 who helped with great explanation. Attaching some photos. https://ibb.co/fDDMvA https://ibb.co/iV9daA https://ibb.co/nHOt8V Cheers !!!!! What a mess. Maintenance man needs shooting.

#25194 - 11/16/18 12:45 PM Re: Schindler Varidor 10 upgrade with Fermator VVVF [Re: koneisland]
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Nikic stranger Joined: Jun 2018 Posts: 13	Originally Posted by koneisland Originally Posted by Nikic Well guys, Varidor 10 cabin door upgrade with Fermator VVVF5 accomplished successfully Big thanks to Alex75 who helped with great explanation. Attaching some photos. https://ibb.co/fDDMvA https://ibb.co/iV9daA https://ibb.co/nHOt8V Cheers !!!!! What a mess. Maintenance man needs shooting. You are right, not exactly for shooting but enough for being punished. Any way that photo is taken during figuring out how to do it, it is sorted later

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