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#3832 - 06/09/12 04:15 PM Kone Space Case  
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What's the difference between Kone Mono space and Eco space.

Thanks

#3838 - 06/09/12 09:37 PM Re: Kone Space Case [Re: christycollett]  
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The EcoSpace also known as...the Ohio(4:1), the Montana(2:1), and now called the MonoSpace STD(standard), all use the MX10(smaller machine). The MonoSpace uses the MX20 machine.

#3839 - 06/09/12 09:38 PM Re: Kone Space Case [Re: Elevator_Steve]  
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Ohio and Montana nicknames are given to the first state to pilot the particular product.

#3842 - 06/09/12 10:58 PM Re: Kone Space Case [Re: Elevator_Steve]  
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Thank you Elevator Steve...I've wondered how those names got started..


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#3887 - 06/15/12 03:58 PM Re: Kone Space Case [Re: Broke_Sheave]  
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Respectful correction to comments above...
OHIO and MONTANA are not nicknames of the products. They were the R&D design project names for the EcoSpace developement. They have absolutely nothing to do with states in which pilots were conducted. They are acronyms. I am not at liberty to disclose what the acronyms stad for however.

The MonoSpace is a traditionaly designed, heavier duty MRL that utilizes both an MX10 and an MX20 machine depending on the duty of the unit. The EcoSpace is a light-duty MRL which is designed around an integrated cab/sling to greatly reduce weigh and cost. The EcoSpace only uses the MX10 class of machines and the roping configuration changes from 2:1 to 4:1 when duty requires. The speed of the EcoSpace is also limited to 150fpm.

#3889 - 06/16/12 05:24 AM Re: Kone Space Case [Re: RGray]  
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Originally Posted By: RGray
Respectful correction to comments above...
OHIO and MONTANA are not nicknames of the products. They were the R&D design project names for the EcoSpace developement. They have absolutely nothing to do with states in which pilots were conducted. They are acronyms. I am not at liberty to disclose what the acronyms stad for however.

The MonoSpace is a traditionaly designed, heavier duty MRL that utilizes both an MX10 and an MX20 machine depending on the duty of the unit. The EcoSpace is a light-duty MRL which is designed around an integrated cab/sling to greatly reduce weigh and cost. The EcoSpace only uses the MX10 class of machines and the roping configuration changes from 2:1 to 4:1 when duty requires. The speed of the EcoSpace is also limited to 150fpm.


A couple questions...obviously you have background on the subject...
Wouldn't "R&D design project names for the EcoSpace developement" be a nickname?
What State was the first 2:1 EcoSpace istalled?
What State was the first 4:1 EcoSpace installed?
Outside of a handful of units installed early on in the MonoSpace days...can you still get an MX10 on the heavier duty MRL...not that i'm aware of. So other than the "not at liberty to disclose"...my shorter version of what the initial post said...isn't much different than what you posted...just shorter.

#3893 - 06/16/12 05:52 AM Re: Kone Space Case [Re: Elevator_Steve]  
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BTW the EcoSpace is not limited to 150 fpm...It is available at 200 fpm also.

http://www.kone.com/countries/en_us/brochures/documents/kone-ecospace-elevator.pdf

#3896 - 06/16/12 05:09 PM Re: Kone Space Case [Re: Elevator_Steve]  
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All I have to say is 4:1 !! ouch

#7111 - 05/19/13 09:47 PM Re: Kone Space Case [Re: E311]  
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Hola compaņeros de casualidad alguien podra ayudarme con este problema

Tengo una maquina KONE mx20l de las llamadas monospace que necesita ser embobinada nuevamente ya que sufrio un corto circuito pero lo malo es que intentaron repararla y solo le sacaron el alambre magneto de cobre y no la repararon ahora su estator esta sin embobinar ni datos, y me gustaria saber que datos en el embobinado deve de llevar??
Tengo lo siguiente
Tiene 144 ranuras
lleva 72 grupos de 2 bobinas en media ranura
Conexion YY
seccion de alambre lleva 8 hilos de calibre #20 awg y 1 hilo de calibre #18 awg

Lo que me falta saber es como va conectado el puente??
Segun la placa funciona con 283 volts 24hz a 102 RMP lleva conectado un variador de frecuencia

espero me ayuden saludos desde mexico df

Translation:

Hello fellow chance someone could help me with this problem

I have a machine KONE monospace MX20L of calls that need to be wound again as suffered a short circuit but the bad thing is that they tried to repair it and just took out the copper magnet wire and not the stator is now repaired without Coiling or data, and I would like to know which data deve carrying windings?
I have the following
It has 144 slots
72 has two sets of coils halfslot
YY connection
wire section takes 8 gauge wire # 20 awg and 1 wire gauge # 18 awg

What I need to know is how the bridge is connected?
According to the plate works with 283 volts 24hz to 102 RMP has an inverter connected

hopefully help me greetings from mexico df

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#7118 - 05/20/13 04:43 PM Re: Kone Space Case [Re: Oscar Hdz]  
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