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#10775 - 05/22/14 04:30 PM
Re: Dynamic Breaking Resistors
[Re: christycollett]
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jkh
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Jim, MCE used then too. In most of the drive with DBR, I've always seen a mechanical overload with the contactor. Personally I always setup the overload protection in the drive as well. I will set the drive 2 or 3 higher. The function is there and I like the redundancy.
And yes, I've had them fail. The signs that led us to the DBR were the car shooting past the floor and/or tripping the overloads...
Last edited by jkh; 05/22/14 04:36 PM.
Make good choices,
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#10811 - 05/24/14 05:09 AM
Re: Dynamic Breaking Resistors
[Re: kenelev]
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Scott Davidson
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we had 2 motion cars nearly burn down a building due to braking units not shutting off
the building did a emergency generator early in the morning, when they switched over to the generator, all seemed well, they went about there testing, and about 20 minutes later, the fire alarm in the machine room went off, then both cars shut down, the braking resistors got so hot that they started the wiring in the controller and the gutter on fire, it was quite the mess, well after quite a few days of rewiring and replacing parts the car were up and running, the problem was that the generator output was to high, over 525 volts, this high voltage turned on the braking units, which started heating the resistors, until they erupted in fire, luckily the engineers were able to turn off the disconnects before more damage happened I'm with christy, we never realized this could happen, it had no thermal protection. there are plenty units out there that will do the same thing kind of scary if you think about it it was a giant toaster. this is something to keep an eye out for on older breaking units
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#10816 - 05/24/14 04:15 PM
Re: Dynamic Breaking Resistors
[Re: jkh]
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Scott,
Thanks for sharing that story. I have a university that have two MCE units with DBRs. I'm emailing them your backup generator findings. I will ask them to include us on their next generator test. Some VF drives have just the DBR directly connected to the drive but others are run via a drive resistor unit I think for the larger units. JKH can I ask where the typical thermal protection is located IE on the resistor or on the drive its self? Thanks in advance mate as I cant remember and if you use only lift supplier types(non commercial) they don't usually have them from my experience.
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