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#13830 - 04/05/15 12:57 PM
Re: otis pie plate selector
[Re: E-man]
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jkh
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E311 & EMan,
I agree with you on your point about "why put good money into old equipment. We have several otis units with these selectors. I have found if you maintain them they provide reliable service for many years.
I will say this, we recommended to MOD one of these units to a customer. The customer explained to me their reasoning why they don't wish to MOD. He explained if he took a loan out for 100k for 15 years the term would have paid 42000.00 in interest. He explained he would rather pay 20k now and gamble that at the end of the next 15 years he won't come close to spending more then the 120000.00 he would have paid out on a loan.
It's now been 8 years. All I can say is I'm glad I didn't make a bet that he was wrong...
Last edited by jkh; 04/05/15 12:58 PM.
Make good choices,
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#13843 - 04/06/15 02:03 AM
Re: otis pie plate selector
[Re: halfpick]
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uppo72
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Ah....so the customer breaks down...opens his wallet and purchases the top of the line full mod just like you recommended. Controller,machine,fixtures...everything top notch! ^ months later the car freewheels into the overhead full speed with passengers! What do you tell the customer in that meeting the next day? Just playing Devil's Advocate! I'm not disagreeing with you just stating you never know when an accident will occur and the customer has to make the decision on his piece of equipment. We only maintain it we don't own it. In closing "Why doesn't the Codes take care of these problems" In 1927 there were no seatbelts laws yet if you drive an older car that vintage and get pulled over you better be wearing a seatbelt or you get a ticket? That's the Law! In Aus, we are different in that as long as the equipment is supplied in original spec it is legal(as long as its safe of course). I find it hard that every time, no matter what equipment it is, that the regs change, this equipment has to be modified potentially at the customers cost, which could be huge. It nearly would cancel all old equipment beyond 10 years from being legal. Does this suggest that the original design is very flawed? Not sure. But we do have a system here which is essentially called a risk assessment(mainly to employees and passengers) which go towards safety concerns generally. I have noted that floors levels as an eg, is a massive priority in the US, but it isn't that bad here, which is good as pure floors levs are tough to consistantly achieve(within specs +/-). I have worked on o/h cranes before(kone), and an eg was the new code stated that you didn't have to have a hook latch, but must provision to do so. However what we did was suggest as a 'risk assessment' that if a load was lost due to a sling 'bouncing' off, then potential load damage/human injury could occur and thus the use of a latch should still be used. This was our way around the original manufacture law.
Last edited by uppo72; 04/06/15 02:06 AM.
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