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#14729 - 07/22/15 02:53 AM
miprom 21 ac
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have a miprom 21 ac car with the disc brake. have a strange problem, the car will take a call, lift the brake and then just kind of hover at the floor, it may move a little each way, it will do this for 3-5 seconds, and then take off to the next floor, as it comes into level, it will do the same thing, slow down, hover, like it is looking for floor level, dzu and dzd come in, and it will kind of hover slightly back and forth, not more then an 1/4 inch or so, and then finally set the brake at that point it is about an inch or so low on all the floors, I'm thinking that maybe the car is trying to find the learned floor level, maybe position encoder is failing, although it will run full hi speed runs and not fault out , just does the above scenario. thinking of doing a learn run to see if that helps, but thinking about the encoder. any ideas
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#14744 - 07/23/15 03:22 AM
Re: miprom 21 ac
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jkh ill check on that dynamic braking circuit. something to think about. thanks jay, thanks for the input. i did check min pos err, it was the same as the other cars, i found a manual for the ac drive that gives a better description of all the parameters and how to adjust a car from startup. it may help. i was wondering about how to access the drive menus, there is a note on the controller saying drive password is 0000 there is a plug at bottom of drive, is this where i should access this? i was just reading the adjustment manual, and it says get to ready screen and press drive adjust button on tool, i never noticed that button before, so i will check it out. manual does say to adjust the adc1 offsets like you mention, so thanks for the insight. this is the only ac miprom i have had to deal with and have never had to access drive menu, so good learning for me. just to refresh your brain cells, measurement is 12 7/8 :}
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#14759 - 07/24/15 03:56 AM
Re: miprom 21 ac
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i have the Kone hand held tool. went back to the job, checked up and down speeds, the up and down hi speeds are about 15fpm off, slower in the up which is the direction I'm having trouble with. i looked at the motion info screen, and have noticed that when the car comes to floor in up and stalls for a few seconds before setting brake, the commanded speed is 5fpm, but the car does not move. has to be something with drive not being able to make car move in up direction at slow speed. jkh it does have regen resistor, and it is good. cannot get into the drive to adjust the ad1 offsets, there is a plug on the drive for communication, but it will not let me log on. if I'm in the miprom 21 program, and press drive adjust, it just says the routine is not yet implemented. i do have one last hope, i was not paying attention, but when you first power up the unit, i get a hard fault 9, which indicates power supply problem, it then goes away after a minute or so, and then switches to HF 24, which says power up sequence problem, you can then run the car, at which point the HF24 goes away and no further faults. I'm thinking maybe the drive power supply is bad, there is a 20 pin connector, from power supply with no markings as to what is what, power supply board has no markings , and print just says +12,-12,5,24 and does not say which wire is for which. so kind of hard to get a reading. had to go on an emergency call, so i will look into this later. maybe onto something with the power supply. ill let you know
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#14815 - 08/05/15 04:05 AM
Re: miprom 21 ac
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well replaced the drive power supply with one i found on eBay, thanks jkh, this took care of the hard fault #9 and # 24, unit boots up with no errors now, the unit does run much smoother with the new power supply, however same problem in the up direction, car comes to floor commanded speed is 3fpm, car stalls and sets brake 3 seconds later, car off level. still works great in the down. did a complete msu setup, offsets etc, all went well as per the instructions, same outcome, still can't access drive, i have a level 3 tool, might need level 4 tool, going to have to look around. looks like they have a yaskawa drive upgrade that we could sell customer, going to look into that. will keep you posted
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