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#20960 - 06/25/17 12:00 PM
Re: Swift futura problems
[Re: jkh]
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Jcjmowrey
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I had same faults occuring on a swift 5000 with a magnetec dsd 412 drive. I did everything you've tried if not more trying to fix it. The conduit for the velocity Encoder wiring was grounded and the shield was grounded on one side like it should be. I started out by pulling the wiring out of the conduit, temporarily running it out of the bottom of the drive across the floor to the encoder so I knew it was far away from any other circuits that could create noise in the line. The problem went away and I'm fairly sure the noise was from the way the wiring was ran from the bottom of the drive to the top of the controller.
If all else fails, read the instructions
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#20981 - 06/27/17 03:20 PM
Re: Swift futura problems
[Re: NOTIME]
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Scarz3
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Do you have Wizard tool ? (laptop with Futura Software) Yes I do.
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#25534 - 01/04/19 12:08 PM
Re: Swift futura problems
[Re: Scarz3]
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1970
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Big shout out to Miltronics thank you!!
Last edited by 1970; 01/04/19 12:09 PM.
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#26836 - 05/04/19 12:02 AM
Re: Swift futura problems
[Re: Scarz3]
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Smitty
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Dont worry too much about the DDP voltage. Actually the voltage adjustment is really just a duty cycle adjustment. The manual won't explain that. The higher the reading the closer you are to 5050. The bigger issue is knowing how to shift the sensors to achieve the correct phasing between DDP1 and DDP2. The hall sensors can be cheated in or out a small amount by rotating them about 1/2 turn. They look like they are in the center of the plastic sensor body, but you can make minor adjustments to them. This if done properly will give you the correct phasing to get rid of floor counting errors.
Last edited by Smitty; 05/04/19 12:03 AM.
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#28233 - 11/19/19 02:02 PM
Re: Swift futura problems
[Re: Scarz3]
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Scarz3
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Hi all.
Been having problems with a couple of swift futura units.
Usually they run fine for anything between 1 hour to 3 days, and then they break down. Usually getting faults 9 & 10, and usually crashes out on fault 18. Although other faults have been appearing. Modules and contactors have been changed. DPP switches have been changed. Drive, encoder, brake board have all been swapped with known working ones.
Also on our DPP switches we're reading between 3.0 and 3.4 volts on DPP2 depending on adjustments made and nothing seems to get it down to the correct voltage.
We just can't seem to get to the bottom of this.
Any help would be much appreciated. We’re still having these issues!! Intermittently the car will leave the floor in the down direction, move out of the magnet zone, stop, level back into the floor it just came from. It will do this 3 times then time out on a 18 - DRIVE FAULT. This can happen at any floor but always in the down direction. Anyone have any further ideas? Many thanks
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#28336 - 11/29/19 09:40 AM
Re: Swift futura problems
[Re: elmcannic]
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Scarz3
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You’ve check the encoder couplings right? If motor end shaft mount, check for loose set screws or set screw type. If that cylindrical spring type is used, complete removal will show any break in the coiled section. This type of encoder is know for directional errors when breakage occurs.
Is front door pre opening (CSW1 bit4) Reset? If so, set it to eliminate pre opening as your trouble seems like it’s yet in the “leveling zone”..
You’re not reporting door/gate lock faults, but they may only appear when outside of MLV parameters. Could it be a lock or locks are being blipped off the clutch once drive motion is dictated and doors are initially closed, but your still under the MLV setting when this event (door lock opened) occurs?
Do you see any excessive upward roll back when down direction is commanded and brake lifts?
What “other faults” have been appearing?
Thanks for the reply. We’ve changed the encoder with a known working one. Door pre opening is reset. We’ve tested the lift with the locks safely bridged out. No excessive roll back. I’ve noticed it likes to go out of service at the top floor more than anywhere else. I have a video of the wizard of this fault happening. I could send it to you somehow to see what you think?
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#28346 - 12/02/19 12:35 PM
Re: Swift futura problems
[Re: Scarz3]
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Jluff
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