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#24492 - 08/09/18 03:01 PM Schindler Miconic  
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Looking for help. Miconic HX I think. Not very familiar with them. Unit runs on inspection but not on normal. Faults out with ER0036 and Safery T1 messages. These are not in the error list I have (flip book from Schindler) as it skips from 25 to 70 and does not include written messages. I'm waiting for a call back from tech support but that could take a day or two. Any help would be greatly apprecited.

#24494 - 08/09/18 05:39 PM Re: Schindler Miconic [Re: green sleeves]  
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Miconic HX "you think"...is it a hydro or traction? 36 fault is a drive timeout fault and Safety T1 is first in safety string. For hydro Look at prints for anything before LED1 and "T1",(soft start) check phases and voltages. For traction do same thing but is there any other accompanying faults causing drive to time out and opening up safe circuit? Looking at faults "extra info" may also help.

#24496 - 08/09/18 06:43 PM Re: Schindler Miconic [Re: Tamperprufe]  
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Traction elevator. Those were the only two faults. Sorry, I didnt see any identifiers or markings other than Miconic and I'm still very new to this brand. Turned out to be the door close limit. Was wondering why I could run on inspection but not normal and I had locks and gate but sure enough, a small adjustment and it went back in service. Thank you for the reply though.

#24511 - 08/12/18 07:46 PM Re: Schindler Miconic [Re: green sleeves]  
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Miconic HX (the H is for Hydro)
is no HX traction



0036 No Start Ok

Summary This section describes the Travel Control error No Start Ok.

Description The trip preparation exceeds the maximum allowed time (time_start_up). In addition to the contactor time-out and the fc-timeout an overall_timeout monitors if the preparation of the trip exceeds a predefined time limit. This maximum time is not field adjustable.

Extra Info Value of the internal variable 'prepare_state'. Identifies the trip preparation phase during which the error occurs.

00 (hex)/ 0 (dec): PREP_INIT,
01 (hex)/ 1 (dec): PREP_END,
02 (hex)/ 2 (dec): PREP_ABORT,
03 (hex)/ 3 (dec): WAIT_FOR_RUET_OFF,
04 (hex)/ 4 (dec): DECIDE_DRIVE,
05 (hex)/ 5 (dec): WAIT_FOR_ISKT3,
06 (hex)/ 6 (dec): DECIDE_AFTER_ISKT3,
07 (hex)/ 7 (dec): WAIT_FOR_RFE_ON,
08 (hex)/ 8 (dec): FINDING_DIRECTION, determine the direction of movement for the given trip_type
09 (hex)/ 9 (dec): WAIT_FOR_ISKT5_SPEZ_DOOR,
0A (hex)/10 (dec): WAIT_CALC_FINISHED, Calculation of the trip plan
0B (hex)/11 (dec): WAIT_FOR_RSK_ON,
0C (hex)/12 (dec): WAIT_FOR_RFE_OFF,
0D (hex)/13 (dec): DECIDE_MOTOR_TRIP_TYPE,
0E (hex)/14 (dec): STARTING_DRIVE, Start the drive (inverter) in order to prepare it for the trip.
0F (hex)/15 (dec): EARLY_SB,
10 (hex)/16 (dec): WAIT_FOR_TRIP_START, Wait for the trip release signal from the control (VXT_START_OK)
11 (hex)/17 (dec): WAIT_FOR_SAFETY_BYPASS_CONTACTS,
12 (hex)/18 (dec): WAIT_FOR_SAFETY_CHAIN, Wait for safety circuit closed
13 (hex)/19 (dec): WAIT_FOR_DOOR_CONTACTS, Maximum time delay (Parameter: door_contact_delay) for bouncing contacts KTS/KTC
14 (hex)/20 (dec): WAIT_FOR_DOOR_LOCK_MONITOR,
15 (hex)/21 (dec): WAIT_FOR_RUET,
16 (hex)/22 (dec): STARTING_TRIP

Source ID Identifies the file in the core software where the error message is generated. This information gives a general hint about the nature of the problem.
The extra information (see below) gives additional information about the exact cause. (see help text for error 70 for the identification list of the source code modules)


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