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#24751 - 09/14/18 04:44 AM Re: Local 18 - Las Vegas [Re: Travisnbb4evr]  
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That’s great info that bodes well for us if correct (crossing my fingers) there appears to be a few of us here now, I’m ranked within the first one hundred. I would be willing to call every few weeks to ask about what number they are on or to get any possible info if others on this board are willing to do the same. Would anyone that has a contact name and number for someone at the apprenticeship office be willing to PM that information to the rest of us? I think it would benefit us all.

#24753 - 09/14/18 04:56 AM Re: Local 18 - Las Vegas [Re: GenErick]  
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For sure As I get info I will share

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#24754 - 09/14/18 04:58 AM Re: Local 18 - Las Vegas [Re: Rique925]  
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6264491869 ,called yesterday and they haven't hired off the list yet

#24760 - 09/14/18 06:38 AM Re: Local 18 - Las Vegas [Re: Rique925]  
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I’m 18. Ranked number 311 on the list. My cousins a regional manager for thyssen. He said not to worry at all with all the work coming I should have no problem. I’m hopeful. Called union hall receptionist said they weren’t allowed to give out scores for test which confused the hell outta me haha. Good luck to everyone!

#24761 - 09/14/18 06:58 AM Re: Local 18 - Las Vegas [Re: Rique925]  
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When you're 18, you got all the time in the world and dont mind waiting. When you're in your mid 30s, let's get it moving!! Lol. I heard this whole list will get exhausted.... could take 12-18 months.

#24763 - 09/14/18 03:09 PM Re: Local 18 - Las Vegas [Re: Travisnbb4evr]  
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Originally Posted by Travisnbb4evr
From what I’m told Otis will be hiring enough to put together 50 crews so if that’s 3 apprentices to one mechanic that’s 150 right there and that’s only one company 3 per one mechanic might be stretching it but good for a solid 100. So I’m not sure why the secretary said 100 tops, from what I have learned that’s just not true.

From the NEBA Agreement:

"Article X
Par. 2. The total number of Helpers, Apprentices and Assistant Mechanics employed shall not exceed the number of Mechanics on any one job, except on jobs where two teams or more are working, one extra Helper, Apprentice or Assistant Mechanic may be employed for the first two teams and an extra Helper,Apprentice or Assistant Mechanic for each additional three teams.Further, the Company may use as many Helpers, Apprentices and Assistant Mechanics as best suits his convenience under the direction of a Mechanic in wrecking old plants and in handling and hoisting material, and on foundation work. When removing old and installing new cables on existing elevator installations, the Company may use two Helpers, Apprentices or Assistant Mechanics to one Mechanic."

Rule of thumb: One Mechanic One Helper.

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#24765 - 09/14/18 03:43 PM Re: Local 18 - Las Vegas [Re: Rique925]  
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Any recommendations on work to do while I’m waiting ? Want to get into the construction field more so next city I interview for I can be more impressive.

#24767 - 09/14/18 04:36 PM Re: Local 18 - Las Vegas [Re: hog451]  
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Damn Hog, took the wind right out of my sails. I’m in the 80’s, really hoping for a call out.

#24768 - 09/14/18 04:52 PM Re: Local 18 - Las Vegas [Re: hog451]  
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So if there are 50 teams this rule doesn’t apply?
I’m only going off what a mechanic that’s also a teacher told me not trying to spread miss information

#24770 - 09/14/18 06:17 PM Re: Local 18 - Las Vegas [Re: Rique925]  
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I got ranked 68. Just hoping I eventually get a call, just thankful I got on the bench. The first time I tried in LA I wasn’t able to get on, tried another time in Phoenix and was ranked 62 but never got called.

#24772 - 09/14/18 06:58 PM Re: Local 18 - Las Vegas [Re: Beans94]  
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Congrats man that’s great placing

#24773 - 09/14/18 07:45 PM Re: Local 18 - Las Vegas [Re: Beans94]  
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Man excellent rank. What do you do for work? What degree or certs do you have? I'm trying to get a rank like that next time.

#24774 - 09/14/18 08:09 PM Re: Local 18 - Las Vegas [Re: Rique925]  
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One year of construction experience with a general contractor doing carpentry, two years of college with a good gpa, and a forklift certification. When I did my first interview the only thing I had was a forklift cert. i think that if you are really dedicated to being in the elevator industry you’ll do what it takes to really make yourself valuable to them. I was also discouraged at times especially when I didn’t make it but along the way you just keep trying to improve yourself for the process. Join other trades such as steamfitters (welding experience) or become an electrician; two very valuable skill sets in this industry.

I think mechanics and union reps want a guy that can read a tape and work with other tools, but also a person that can follow directions and won’t talk back when yelled at or told to do something. So construction experience in my opinion shows both of those qualities since you usually work with someone that teaches you things.

#24775 - 09/14/18 08:10 PM Re: Local 18 - Las Vegas [Re: Rique925]  
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Ithink it's just how well you grade. Dont think experience has any on role. Maybe osha 10 cert, which I have. I know someone who got a 93 and they were in the 80s. Not many points separate 91.5/109 to a rank in the 60's... I'll assume he got a 94 or 94.5. That tool assessment was also part of the interview grade... an excellent group of people took this test in Vegas.... nothing we could've done about that.

#24777 - 09/14/18 08:16 PM Re: Local 18 - Las Vegas [Re: Dro]  
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Originally Posted by Dro
Ithink it's just how well you grade. Dont think experience has any on role. Maybe osha 10 cert, which I have. I know someone who got a 93 and they were in the 80s. Not many points separate 91.5/109 to a rank in the 60's... I'll assume he got a 94 or 94.5. That tool assessment was also part of the interview grade... an excellent group of people took this test in Vegas.... nothing we could've done about that.



“Applicants will be scored based upon Education, Work Experience, Oral Interview, and Tool Assessment, and will be placed on a ranked list, with the highest scoring individual being placed at the top of the list. All applicants of the results, and applicants will be placed as apprentices based on their rank in this pool of eligible candidates. Applicants not selected for employment will remain on the ranked list for a period of two years.
Employment as an Elevator Constructor presents an extremely challenging, yet highly rewarding career to individuals with strong ambition, solid skills, and a willingness to learn. Our Apprenticeship Training Program provides highly qualified mechanics to an industry that insists on superior quality and craftsmanship.
We wish all applicants the best of luck as you apply for work in our industry. “

- local 18 website

#24779 - 09/14/18 08:25 PM Re: Local 18 - Las Vegas [Re: Rique925]  
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I have zero construction experience... maybe that's what brought me down.

#24794 - 09/15/18 12:49 AM Re: Local 18 - Las Vegas [Re: Rique925]  
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If you don’t have construction/mechanical expierence at all you won’t make too 100 that’s what they told me.

#24795 - 09/15/18 01:02 AM Re: Local 18 - Las Vegas [Re: Dro]  
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Shoot I got an electrical "tech math" cert, 1 year of electrical experience, welding school I just started, a rigging cert,OSHA 30, forklift cert,twic cert, Rso cert. Tool assessment was easy, I guess I messed up the easiest part, the oral interview..

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#24802 - 09/15/18 02:59 AM Re: Local 18 - Las Vegas [Re: Rique925]  
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If you have all those certs and still got a 109, Iwill go out on a limb and say that the interview was worth the most, as you scored 3 points higher than me and all Ihave is an OSHA 10.... I have inside info saying that relateable work experience is not factored to very minimal.

#24826 - 09/19/18 03:07 AM Re: Local 18 - Las Vegas [Re: Rique925]  
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Travis, general rule of thumb is one apprentice to one mechanic. Yes, on bigger jobs they will sometimes have a floating helper or two, AKA 8 two man crews may have an additional 2-3 apprentices on the job site. Just because there are 18 elevators in a building dont assume that's 18 crews. Up in my neck of the woods we would do it with around 5 crews, depending on tme and space constraints.

The good news for all you Vegas guys is the legalized marijuana. We have had so many in the top 20% fail drug tests up here. Without knowing the true work load, or quality of applicants, I would think if you score in the top 35-40% of that list, you have a decent chance at being called within the next 12 months.

For those outside that number, of course there is Crap to do. Go get some sort of education that relates. Welding, go learn hydraulic theory, be proficient with hand tools, including metric, hoisting and rigging, learn how to tie a knot. Education is the biggest, no one can ever take that from you. Go test in another area. This isn't a job, it is a career....get in, do well, and you and your family are set for life.

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