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#32518 - 02/10/22 08:03 PM KONE KCE Service Tool  
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Is there a tool for unlocking menus of KCE konrolller as LCE. I heard that KONE uses own mobile app. for this. Thanks.

#32528 - 02/12/22 09:24 AM Re: KONE KCE Service Tool [Re: sampler]  
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The KCE control is not locked, you can use the push buttons a bit as on the LCE control.
If you need to change in parameter or something else you need a program.

#32531 - 02/13/22 10:12 AM Re: KONE KCE Service Tool [Re: sampler]  
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Well, is that not the same as being locked?
Unless you have the app, mini console or KCE maintenance tool, you cant really do much on these controllers....

#32546 - 02/16/22 02:17 AM Re: KONE KCE Service Tool [Re: sampler]  
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I've worked on these a good bit. Fought through a bunch of issues like loosing parameters when the Dallas chip went out etc. It's always in the back of my mind when im working on it, how much easier would this be if I had the two tools that plugged in.... to me it's like working on a VE icon or tac 32, yes they have UITs but I'm going and putting the laptop on it. I can work on it alot faster and do more easier.

#32565 - 02/18/22 07:15 PM Re: KONE KCE Service Tool [Re: Alex75]  
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You can use hyper terminal to communicate with these controllers. The user interface can be locked out from accessing menus but it can be unlocked with HT.

#32582 - 02/20/22 03:16 PM Re: KONE KCE Service Tool [Re: Stall Protection]  
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Can you pm me how?

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#32583 - 02/20/22 07:28 PM Re: KONE KCE Service Tool [Re: sampler]  
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@Stall Protection
You have noted that we discuss the new "KCE" controller, not the "KCM-831" controller?
If you have any info about the "KCE" and Hyper Terminal I would like to see it!

/Alex

#32666 - 03/05/22 08:36 PM Re: KONE KCE Service Tool [Re: Stall Protection]  
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how is it possible? would you help me out!


Troubleshoot to KONE elevator is fun.
#32702 - 03/13/22 05:02 PM Re: KONE KCE Service Tool [Re: sampler]  
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Scusami tu riesci ad entrare su Kce con hiper terminal ? Mi dai maggiori informazioni grazie

#34087 - 10/22/22 07:33 AM Re: KONE KCE Service Tool [Re: Stall Protection]  
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Im looking for tool to Kone KCE as well. Hyperterminel sounds interresting. How do I do that and what cabel do I need?

Best Regards Tom
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#34089 - 10/22/22 12:11 PM Re: KONE KCE Service Tool [Re: sampler]  
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You cannot use hyper terminal, you must use their mobile app or PC. But you can read fault codes, change many parameters and troubleshoot without it.

#34097 - 10/23/22 02:50 PM Re: KONE KCE Service Tool [Re: Jadam]  
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Yes. I have changed many parameters and made shaftlearn, reset and other stuff on them. But there are many adresses in the parameterlist you can't reatch and make change to. So I'm looking for a tool, to give me full access to the system. :-)

Best Regards Tom
Troubleshooter

#34102 - 10/25/22 03:44 PM Re: KONE KCE Service Tool [Re: Stall Protection]  
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I would like to know to how can I open the ice board

#35085 - 04/16/23 09:15 AM Re: KONE KCE Service Tool [Re: sampler]  
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How to connect kce and hyper terminal please?

#35110 - 04/19/23 11:25 AM Re: KONE KCE Service Tool [Re: sampler]  
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I don't think it's possible through hyperterminal, since the program doesn't incorporate the diagnostic loop by serial as the lce did, now it expects a handshake from the dongle that is connected to it. If I'm wrong that would be a breakthrough! Thank you smile




#35116 - 04/20/23 03:56 PM Re: KONE KCE Service Tool [Re: sampler]  
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And connect LCE with hyper terminal...yes?

#35118 - 04/20/23 08:34 PM Re: KONE KCE Service Tool [Re: andy71]  
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Yes, for LCE you only have to connect with an RS232/USB adapter through a standard null modem cable, you can do it with putty or with the windows hyperterminal, send the special character Ctrl+e Ctrl+c and it's like a standard bash program, it has its functionalities, etc.




#35119 - 04/21/23 05:12 AM Re: KONE KCE Service Tool [Re: sampler]  
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Thanks..possible reset counter knx?

#35120 - 04/21/23 07:29 AM Re: KONE KCE Service Tool [Re: andy71]  
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If you know the algorithm used by the LCEUIO you can send it but there is no specific operation from hyperterminal for it, you can see the Neuron ID parameter...

Last edited by wikilift; 04/21/23 07:30 AM.



#35122 - 04/21/23 09:02 AM Re: KONE KCE Service Tool [Re: sampler]  
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What is neuron id?

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