Originally Posted By: Silly
The problem I guess is you just don't understand what all these professionals are explaining to you. Simple analog line is most fool proof. Not saying your wireless communication system doesn't have backups, but we are required to have something like 4hrs? of phone after loss of power. Old school lines used to power the whole kit and in catastrophic emergencies, say an earthquake, landlines are usually still functional. How's that wireless system going to hold up?

People have flat out died in elevators for lack of phone lines by owners, faulty dialers, etc. It is life safety for us, and therefor we prefer to Keep It Simple Stupid. Sorry that it may not save you a buck, but we as an industry believe it may save you a life.


Ok, thanks for explaining. I actually had no idea that was the problem he was talking about. It almost sounded that he was mad that I was working with an alarm company instead of an elevator tech to do this.

I know when I inquired that the wireless antenna they use to collect the data dump on the elevator could possible send out a S.O.S as a backup last resort measure, it angered a lot of people.

I think the phone companies should be forced to provide the lifelines for the elevator and fire at cost. My last phone bill came in at over $200 a month for an almost abandoned 3 story building.

I only have 3 lines, 1 elevator, 1 security and 1 fire, probably zero long distance and probably only a few minutes for testing a month. To add insult to injury, there is taxes on phones like taxes are Alcohol or Tobacco. There are taxes on phone for even the Spanish American war over 100 years ago.

Centurylink has a lower cost product called a " measured line" which I signed up for to save money but for some reason they said they don't offer that price to people in my state and actually raise my phone bill. They said it was prohibited in my state however the regulators I spoke with told me there was no such prohibition. My guess is they were probably not forced to provide it so they would not.

Its impossible to be 100% safe from everything. The government is putting your life at more risk by letting illegal alien murders and ISIS refugees into the country then a wireless communicator for an elevator phones ever could.

Heck, why do airlines not provide a parachute for all the passengers? Why not have 3 pilots to be safer,etc..? There are tons of things you can do to increase the safety but the economics would not make sense.

You know I was trying to get a copy of the fire code and the association which provides wanted to charge me over $100 to download the PDF of the fire code? They would not even answer a question without me paying them to answer the question.
If you rip people off who are trying to do the right thing, it could lead to future problems.

If it makes everyone feel better, I will put a larger UPS battery in it than 4 hours.

I talk to people on the telephone forum as well as they are saying that the old copper telephones lines are on the way out. Verizon have even stop offering traditional phone lines in some areas. Elevator phones in the future will probably have to adopt a new standard. VOIP, cellular,etc... I am just a little bit ahead of my time here.

By the way, these are hydraulic 3-floor elevators which during a power outage will fall to the bottom floor and allow the person a way to get out.

Thanks again.

Last edited by SpaceLord; 04/15/17 05:29 AM.