We're going back Monday. It's a two speed machine. I'm not sure if all the 60 relays are in, but I think 60 is at least. Great tip on opening the brake and turning the shaft to bring it off final. Haven't had to do that in years i forgot about that trick. We are getting 81U or 81D to pull in depending on the direction of the call latched. I've heard the "monkey on a stick term," but not exactly sure what it looks like. There is a motor on top of a shaft that I can spin and the selector will go up or down and make/brake all sorts of sets of contacts as it moves. It is not moving when I run the car off the contactors though which might be my problem. I don't remember a T69, but i'll check. I definitely had the car in between floors, with calls latched and it not going anywhere which, I believe, isolates the retiring cam from being an issue like you said. I'll update monday after we play around with it again!