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#1312 - 03/26/11 06:42 PM
Restrictors ~ Inspection, Service, Repair, Maint.
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Robert Krieger
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Here is an article in the NY Times stressing the importance of proper inspection, service, repair and maintenance of Door Restrictors. Condolences go out to the surviving family members. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/25/us/25bcelevator.html?_r=1Respectfully Submitted, Robert L Krieger Jr.
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#1319 - 03/27/11 09:12 PM
Re: Restrictors ~ Inspection, Service, Repair, Maint.
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What you saw in the news paper article was mostly correct and yet not all the information. If it settles, as many of these cases do, the public may never know exactly what happened. I myself personally would not take the risk of jumping out of an elevator when the platform is 4' above the landing because I know better. When you are standing on a platform 4' above the floor, it really does not look like its that far to jump or scoot out on your belly. I think it is a matter of perception on the part of people stuck in the car. With the stop switch in the off position, no power on the doors, the code book states it shall be openable with less than 75ft lbs of force. (Assuming floor level) What we can all do is to get the word out through places like www.eesf.org The city of Los Angeles requires signage about what to do if you are stuck in an elevator. I will be up on Market Street tomorrow morning for an appointment. My flight leaves in the evening. I hope Halfpick, we can get meet for coffee before my flight leaves. Respectfully Submitted, Robert L Krieger Jr.
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#1423 - 05/09/11 02:27 PM
Re: Restrictors ~ Inspection, Service, Repair, Maint.
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In my opinion they should mandate a restrictor system like what Otis has used/uses. You cannot defeat two pieces of angle iron! Agreed! I cannot stand Adams Hatch Latches.
Last edited by E-man; 05/09/11 02:30 PM.
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#1478 - 05/27/11 05:00 AM
Re: Restrictors ~ Inspection, Service, Repair, Maint.
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Robert Krieger
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Unfortunately ,the real problem is that people try and climb out of elevators that are often 4 or 5 ft above the floor. This has resulted in many deaths since people have slipped under the elevator when trying to jump to the floor. With the advent of newer codes requiring a longer toe guard the problem is helped but the safest place for any passenger is to stay in the elevator until help arrives. The angle system is probably the most foolproof and mechanically sound. The newer car door restrictors being made today are better but they still need to installed and maintained properly. You have stated the case for door restrictors succinctly. If anyone has any questions as to why they are important simply talk to the AHJ who has investigated such a fatality. The AHJ's are frequently prevented by duty from making public comments, however buy the inspector a cup of joe and ask them what they think of the importance of door restrictors. It will make you a supporter of the devices. Yes, all moving equipment needs service, adjustment and maintenance. I predict that within the next several years of lack of maintenance, it will take its toll on our infrastructure and economy. It is up to the Mechanics to hold the line on safety and protect the public. The people who tell the building owner what the building owner wants to hear as opposed to reality, is a person practicing quackery or some similar confidence trick in order to obtain money, fame or other advantages via some form of pretense or deception. Yes, I have found myself employed by such people and when I found out, I also found out they did not have the money to pay me. Go Figure. Respectfully Submitted, Robert L Krieger Jr.
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