I know of two people when I was in the office that Otis was going after. I think the mid-west and 1 back east. They REALLY hated the Amtech purchase because they lost there grip on things. Use to be only select TS/Adj had service tools, but Amtech just started handing them and the info out because Otis wouldnt help. They figured they paid guys to install, not TS/ADJ.