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#29112 04/22/20 12:43 PM
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Can anyone lead me to an independant non-proprietary elevator manufacturer who can supply me with an elevator that would meet this SPEC?

Elevator 1: Machine room-less hydraulic elevator. The entire hydraulic system and the controller shall be located inside the hoistway. No extra machine room or control space
1. Model: 3 stage
2. Rated Capacity: 2500 lbs.
3. Rated Speed: 150 ft. /min.
4. Travel: 30'-0''
5. Landings: 3 total
6. Openings: Front, 3
7. Clear Car Inside: 6’-8” x 4’-3”
8. Cab Height: 8’ standard
9. Hoistway Entrance Size: 3'-6'' wide x 7'-0'' high
10. Door Type: Single Speed, Center Opening
11. Power Characteristics: 208 volts, 3 Phase, 60 Hz.
12. Pit Depth: 4-0”
13. Hoistway Dimensions: As shown on drawings, Contractor to verify with manufacturer.

Elevator 2: Machine room-less hydraulic elevator. The entire hydraulic system and the controller shall be located inside the hoistway. No extra machine room or control space is required.
1. Model: 3 stage
2. Rated Capacity: 4000 lbs.
3. Rated Speed: 150 ft. /min.
4. Travel: 30'-0''
5. Landings: 3 total
6. Openings: Left Front, 3
7. Clear Car Inside: 7’-8” x 5’-5”
8. Cab Height: 8’ standard
9. Hoistway Entrance Size: 4’-0” wide x 7'-0'' high
10. Door Type: Single Speed, Center Opening
11. Power Characteristics: 208 volts, 3 Phase, 60 Hz.
12. Pit Depth: 4-0”
13. Hoistway Dimensions: As shown on drawings, Contractor to verify with manufacturer.

Controller: Shall be integrated in a hoistway entrance jamb. The elevator control system shall be microprocessor based and software oriented, together with all relays, switches, solid-state components and hardware required for operation.

Montana #29113 04/22/20 02:10 PM
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iTry Delaware elevator manufacturing, i think they make an MRL Hydro.

Montana #29115 04/22/20 02:44 PM
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I don't think you are going to get a good answer here. That is because elevator people don't like MRL's. If I can't touch it or see it, I, myself don't want it...

JustWolf #29116 04/22/20 03:01 PM
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Haha, I'm totally with you on that JustWolf. I do not like working on MRL's. I try to convince architects not to SPEC them but it falls on deaf ears. I have to bid to the SPEC and this is the SPEC. Looking like TKE or The Big O will be their only choice. SMH.

BillS #29117 04/22/20 04:21 PM
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Thanks BillS. I sent a message to Delaware Elevator and haven't heard back yet. It's starting to look like TKE's Endura 3-stage is the only option for a 30' rise.

Montana #29121 04/23/20 03:41 AM
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pm me, i have some connections down there that might get a faster response.

Montana #29124 04/23/20 04:26 PM
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I have heard Alliance elevator and Canton have a Hydro MRL but have not seen one yet.

Montana #29125 04/23/20 04:33 PM
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Heard Canton is doing one as well but haven't seen anything on it and theyve been talking for a while now about it....We did an Alliance MRL package but it was traction (wouldn't recommend it - bunch of issues regardless of traction or hydro). Typically if a contractor really pushes us for a bid on a project that has MRL specs we usually push back hard on it and offer a typical package (holeless, in ground, or roped hydro) and if they really don't want it then we ignore the bid request, just not worth it with the big boys having the upper hand as far as MRL installs go.

ABE #29128 04/24/20 02:14 AM
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Thanks Abe.

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Thanks ElevatorGuy128. I just loath seeing proprietary elevators being put in. Haha

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If you are a building owner, you should avoid an MRL like the plague. If you are sourcing on behalf of a building owner, you should avoid an MRL like the plague.


2nd generation elevator man.
Chainring #29151 04/28/20 04:06 AM
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Agree!

Montana #29170 04/29/20 10:14 PM
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Screw MRL's! God they are terrible.

Jblack83 #29172 04/30/20 02:48 AM
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That's a big thumbs up from me Bjack83!

Montana #29181 05/01/20 06:13 AM
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Oops sorry, my dyslexia kicked in Jblack83.


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