Hello! Coming at you from a theme park! Nice to be here and finally get approved! I have a lot under my scope here, but one of the big ones is elevators and ADA lift management. I've never worked on elevators or lifts, I'm more of a lame management guy sadly, so it's a new area for me.

So - we have a few issues with an ADA lift. It is currently locked out by the State. Thankfully, the ride is still up and running, but I would LOVE to try to get this opened back up ASAP. Problem is, 2024 new regulations require prints, diagram and other things. Back before I was trying to get my account approved on this forum, we were in DIRE need of the wiring diagram. I got so desperate I even paid $25 on another site to see if that diagram matched what we had on site. I don't think it did, but it was a high risk high reward.

LUCKILY our elevator contractor was able to find the wiring diagram on the panel of the controller, but we couldn't find any structure diagrams. Not on our drives, not on any prints, nada. I obviously wanted to ask for help on this forum, if possible if anyone had documents to share for this particular lift. I didn't want to come off demanding or anything - so that's my situation and my plea. Locked out by the state and in need of some help of internet strangers.

Thanks for reading and have a great day!

Never did see what kind of ADA lift you are trying to get info on. What brand, year installed, model, pics? any help on your end might elicit response from our end.

Also, your location might help...

I purposely didn't include it because I didn't want to overwhelm the welcome section. In years past when I have overloaded the welcome section of a forum, I get berated by an Admin, haha. Let's call it California. Trying to hide *some* info for reasons.

If I can ask more - Model # is BC-42. I saw some other posts about BC-42's on here which is why I made an account at all originally. I'm going to poke around with the search function. If I find what I need, I will edit or add a response here.

I DID want to offer this up: Wiring diagram for BC-42 - at least what we have, if this helps anyone looking for it.

https://ibb.co/LhrrkSK - I tried my best to hide any info about where this is located and who had serviced it in the past, but this is a Wheel-O-Vator (I was told this manufacturer was bought like 3 years ago and now doesn't exist anymore, hence all the trouble trying to find this stuff). This picture is what we found behind the controller.

Boy, nice find. You might get a copy of it and have it laminated. Welcome to the forum.

Usually, you find this sheet glued to the back of the Junction box cover inside he unit. This is a screw drive unit and appears to have electric locks at top and bottom floors.

Most of these had mechanical locks and not electric strikes...
I would think that a previous WOV deale3r could handdle any problems with a unit like this...

I'm not looking for the unit to be fixed. It's completely operational!

I'm not looking to get it repaired, we have 1-2 companies for that. I'm just looking for any structural drawings if anyone has them. I found something that looks INCREDIBLY similar to ours. I just can't say to the State that it's like-for-like. I guess I should ask our elevator company to compare.

https://ibb.co/xj8Yf6P - I THINK this is a print of what we have as far as a BC-42 has, but this is not from our records. I literally googled this and pulled it from page 5 from "The National Wheel-O-Vator Co., Inc. Vertical Platform Lifts" Buyline PDF here: https://www.accesselevatorinc.com/content/brochures/national/nwovverticalbrochure.pdf

The reason I'm posting these is to see with your guys' expert eyes, I'm wondering if anyone has this similar lift and the print I'm showing above looks like the one anyone has or has worked on. If yes, I can tell the state we have a print and we have a wiring diagram and then I just need to do two other things to get the lift unlocked.

When a customer contracted to have a WOV product installed, SOP would be to get a generic cut sheet of the product with the features required and the Architect would make/find the space to have it installed. WOV never gave out engineering/structural drawings for any installation. This is standard for just about any Accessibility lift or equipment that I am aware of or familiar with. Sorry for any confusion...

Yeah, I know the standard practice, but I don't think anyone saved the cut sheet for this as it happened 25 years ago, so we're Crap out of luck, huh?

I've never heard of any part of a code that requires layout drawings to be present in the MCP for existing lifts. Are you sure you need them? Wiring diagrams, test procedures, and a specified maintenance plan are all reasonable things but not the generic layout for a wheelchair lift. Even if the code changed and it's required in the newest code I wouldn't think it would become a retroactive requirement to need those drawings. Also you said you had to pay $25 for prints. That's very cheap. It cost more then that to make copies of most prints. Some companies charge $1000+ for prints if you don't have a service contract with them

You wouldn't think the new code would apply since it isn't a new installation, but it does apparently to the State of California, lol

Id check the unit for a code data tage that will tell you what year it was installed and the code year it's compliant to. I don't know what code California uses but if it's asme a17.1 then it should be easy enough to ask the governing body where it requires lay out drawings for a wheelchair lift.

Seriously?
California is now requiring wiring diagrams and installation drawings to be on site… from the 60’s through current day? Is this what I’m understanding? Line drawings or electrical diagram I can understand, but…
And a red tag to go along with non compliance? Good luck with that.
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Pretty much sounds like Sacramento doesn’t it?

It should be compliant to the code of 98/99, that was the install date. Should be 25 years old. I wonder if the state would remove the tag if we have 3/4 of what they want. I'll ask and report back.

Sounds like someone might have made the elevator inspector a bit uptight. I always treat them with the utmost respect so these type of things don't happen, but I could be wrong. Any how, I would still buy him a coffee or take him out to lunch. Lol

No, it wasn't that. I'm super nice to them and they like me a fair bit. They had to do what they had to do. They gave us 3 months to find this stuff and we've spent like 7 months trying to find them with no luck.

Can you post a picture of the state code violation letter?

This is for a wheelchair lift? Under the a18.1 correct?