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#15345 - 11/07/15 03:52 AM
Re: Dirty Little Tricks
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Jcjmowrey
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I know that controllers with a modem hooked up to the cpu are there to send emails to the company or technician about faults being logged or information about performance ( like the Vista monitoring unit on tk controllers). Is it true that when a company like tk losses the service contract, someone from that company can log onto the cpu from a remote location and cause the cpu to shutdown and/or change parameters that will cause other problems?
If all else fails, read the instructions
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#15353 - 11/09/15 03:20 PM
Re: Dirty Little Tricks
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Jcjmowrey
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I'm saying that I've heard rumors that this can be and has been done by companies. I've had a couple of instances where problems that have occurred could be easily explained by a company doing this and I would like to know if anyone else has encountered a similar situation.
If all else fails, read the instructions
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#15654 - 12/22/15 04:49 AM
Re: Dirty Little Tricks
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ConfusedInCanada
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Heard a story of someone tying a piece of string on a ball valve handle in the pit, manually lowering the car onto buffer springs, then pulling the string, closing the ball valve....very dirty trick on my opinion So.. I was pretty shocked/impressed when I read this comment and mentioned it to a buddy in the trade. That just led to us both being confused. How would you even fix this? I initially thought you could just hoist the car, but would the negative pressure in the cylinder not prevent this? If there's no way to get under the car, are you pretty much screwed for every plan except cutting a hole in the floor? Edit: I guess I should submit something I saw, as well. I'm gonna pretend this was intentional because I want to maintain some faith in the boys that work in my local, but for anyone who has worked on one of those silly GE controllers before, you know that faults are all cleared with one jumper... And all the programming could be cleared with that same jumper after either a slip of the hand or a bit of malicious intent... After another company (won't give it away but it starts with a T and ends with a hyssen Krupp) lost a contract, I walked into one of those. Not a good time....
Last edited by ConfusedInCanada; 12/22/15 04:53 AM.
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#15655 - 12/22/15 04:56 AM
Re: Dirty Little Tricks
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ConfusedInCanada
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I've had non-union shops change passwords, install jumpers, and change parameters on jobs they've lost. I have yet to experience this when taking over a union job. I can only assume what I have found is sabotage, there is the outside change it was due to gross incompetence. In only one particular case I know it was sabotage, but the culprit is no longer in business.
I work for a top tier union company, we loose jobs and pick up jobs, and sabotage is not worth it. Our reputation is far more important than a job here and there. While it's easy to trash talk the morals of non-union workers, sometimes it's more ignorance than it is sabotage. We took on a power station where the elevators were previously looked after by anyone on site that could keep it running. Found a gate switch jumped out only because an electrician could troubleshoot well enough to find out where the power stopped... Changed a set of ECI contacts and everything was good again. He wasn't trying to kill anyone (although, he came closer than he realized) but he just didn't know enough to even step foot in the machine room.
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