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#9179 - 12/11/13 06:05 AM Re: Westinghouse Question [Re: halfpick]
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 563 uppo72 addict
uppo72 addict Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 563	Originally Posted By: halfpick There you go. Find a unused back contact of the floor you want to home and a timer to activate when car is away from landing after a given time. Once timer sets it will place a 300 call to start car to landing. Almost like a NDR feature (intense up demand) relay... I would temp. wire the feature and try it out. It won't be perfect, but better than rewiring controller and you can return it back to original dispatching fairly easy! half pick would you then have to disconnect or turn off the original homing circuit so you don't have a car race from floor to floor?

#9192 - 12/13/13 03:33 AM Re: Westinghouse Question [Re: uppo72]
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halfpick enthusiast Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 237 California	You bring up a good point. Is it homing you want to change or Next Available with doors open and hall lantern lit? My circuit won't do that. Not an easy fix! My circuit will send a car to a floor you select.Open doors then close them, should stay at that floor (available) unless dispatched elsewhere. Once call is registered at floor a 42 relay will then open doors lite hall lantern and ring bell! That's why I would jumper in the circuit..Did I really just Say Jumper!!!!I meant circuit diverter and play with the design. You should be able to interupt the old homing circuit if you have the correct wiring sheets! Last edited by halfpick; 12/13/13 03:39 AM.

#9193 - 12/13/13 05:18 AM Re: Westinghouse Question [Re: halfpick]
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uppo72 addict Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 563	Originally Posted By: halfpick You bring up a good point. Is it homing you want to change or Next Available with doors open and hall lantern lit? My circuit won't do that. Not an easy fix! My circuit will send a car to a floor you select.Open doors then close them, should stay at that floor (available) unless dispatched elsewhere. Once call is registered at floor a 42 relay will then open doors lite hall lantern and ring bell! That's why I would jumper in the circuit..Did I really just Say Jumper!!!!I meant circuit diverter and play with the design. You should be able to interupt the old homing circuit if you have the correct wiring sheets! HP I think the poster wanted to change the level at which lifts homed at the bottom ie the main floor.

#9199 - 12/14/13 03:17 AM Re: Westinghouse Question [Re: uppo72]
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halfpick enthusiast Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 237 California	Yeah, I got that..And G is a floor below 1 which was the old main lobby for the elevators! G is now the new lobby, but it isn't the lowest floor for the elevators? Must have a garage or basement level....Just trying to determine if homing is the same as "next in lobby"....Most old Westinghouse units came wired with these provisions...Usually a jumper on two terminals to activate or (remove jumper) to eliminate feature! Usually the first page of the prints with all the available features on the controller! Only stating that if you want to change homing of elevators with same " Next Features" just like old main floor...That gets alittle involved! GoodLuck! Last edited by halfpick; 12/14/13 03:28 AM.

#9205 - 12/14/13 01:00 PM Re: Westinghouse Question [Re: halfpick]
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uppo72 addict Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 563	Originally Posted By: halfpick Yeah, I got that..And G is a floor below 1 which was the old main lobby for the elevators! G is now the new lobby, but it isn't the lowest floor for the elevators? Must have a garage or basement level....Just trying to determine if homing is the same as "next in lobby"....Most old Westinghouse units came wired with these provisions...Usually a jumper on two terminals to activate or (remove jumper) to eliminate feature! Usually the first page of the prints with all the available features on the controller! Only stating that if you want to change homing of elevators with same " Next Features" just like old main floor...That gets alittle involved! GoodLuck! Yep mate agree. The use other car or next up car would all be affected.

#9206 - 12/14/13 02:21 PM Re: Westinghouse Question [Re: halfpick]
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john jay old hand Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 761 ohio	All this to re-engineer a 40 year old system is ridiculous. I know it is possible, an old Westinghouse hand could do it. But you are messing with group operation, maybe fire recall, if it has that. Call electrodyne or a similar company that has engineers and insurance. The Hotel really needs to upgrade to a whole new system. An Overlay will address the problem but it really isn't the best way. Doing this as a Technician should not be an option.

#9207 - 12/14/13 04:09 PM Re: Westinghouse Question [Re: john jay]
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E-man addict Joined: May 2011 Posts: 487	Originally Posted By: john jay All this to re-engineer a 40 year old system is ridiculous. I know it is possible, an old Westinghouse hand could do it. But you are messing with group operation, maybe fire recall, if it has that. Call electrodyne or a similar company that has engineers and insurance. The Hotel really needs to upgrade to a whole new system. An Overlay will address the problem but it really isn't the best way. Doing this as a Technician should not be an option. I agree, they need to mod. Although I hate overlays, an MCE would cut out the dispatcher and control fire service and all the code requirments of today. I have an old 1968 REL job that had an MCE overlay installed in 1995. I'm starting to have issues with the MCE, it's almost 20years old. Who relies on a 20 year old car to get to work, much less a 46 year old elevator to keep guests happy? Last edited by E-man; 12/14/13 04:13 PM.

#9208 - 12/14/13 05:17 PM Re: Westinghouse Question [Re: E-man]
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 237 halfpick enthusiast
halfpick enthusiast Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 237 California	I agree with the last few posts...The system is old and needs an upgrade. Sounds like they just restarted this hotel again....May need alittle time to get going before elevators are upgraded. Most likely upgraded the rooms...That is what people see? Bottom Line....That 40 year old system can still dance....But then what do I know,,,I'm just an old Circle W man! Last edited by halfpick; 12/14/13 05:19 PM.

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